Last modified: 2012-09-27 14:57:25 UTC
Hello. When AbuseFilter blocks an user that triggers a filter, the filter does not seem to allow talk page access so it's imposible for IP addresses blocked to even appeal this automatic block. The fact that blocked users are not allowed to use talk page access is not noted, either, in the block log but on the Special:BlockList page. Please compare: * BlockLog: <http://es.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Especial%3ARegistro&type=block&user=&page=User%3A201.241.168.102+&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=> * IPBlockList entry: 00:28, 11 August 2011, Filtro antiabusos (Talk | contribs | block) blocked 201.241.168.102 (Talk) (expires on 12 August 2011 at 00:28, anon. only, account creation blocked, cannot edit own talk page) (Bloqueado automáticamente por el filtro antiabusos. Descripción del filtro que se ha disparado: Vandalismo corriente #1) (unblock | change block) So in the block log appears that the IP is hardblocked (the "block anonymous users only" box unchecked) and that talk page access is allowed. Yet, on the BlockList the IP appears blocked with anonymous users only, account creation disabled and talk page blocked. The filter should hardblock IPs but allow talk page access. The "angry-autoblock" for IPs makes no sense. As for registered users: account creation blocked, autoblock and angry autoblock, but talk page access allowed. Hope that its clear otherwise please ask. Maybe this can help <http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.class.php?view=markup&pathrev=90285> [line 1011 & ss.] Regards.
Another example from today: Special:Log/block @ eswikibooks * (show/hide) 00:16, 29 December 2011 Filtro antiabusos (Talk | contribs | block) blocked Sindinero (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 24 hours (account creation disabled, angry-autoblock) (Bloqueado automáticamente por el filtro antiabusos. Descripción del filtro que se ha disparado: Vandalismo corriente #1) (unblock | change block) Special:Blocklist * 00:16, 29 December 2011 || Sindinero (Talk | contribs) || 00:16, 30 December 2011 (unblock | change block) || Filtro antiabusos (Talk | contribs | block) || account creation blocked, autoblock disabled, cannot edit own talk page Messages in both logs do not match. Desired settings not applied. Thanks.
A real angry autoblock should be implemented, or a normal autoblock done instead.
Gerrit change #16650
(In reply to comment #3) > Gerrit change #16650 Are autoblocks enabled there? From what I can see it's only enabled "nocreate" and $block->isHardblock( false ); Thanks.
Doesn't look like it. Should it be?
(In reply to comment #5) > Doesn't look like it. Should it be? Yes please. Vandal blocks without autoblock are useless. The settings for account blocks should at least be: account creation blocked + autoblock. For IP addresses anon. only and account creation disabled. Regards.
Merged by Werdna.
Doesn't seem resolved. Logs still show innacurate information: <https://es.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Especial:Registro/block&page=Usuario%3A190.110.152.19> * (show/hide) 05:48, 21 September 2012 Filtro antiabusos (Talk | contribs | block) blocked 190.110.152.19 (Talk) with an expiry time of 24 hours (account creation disabled, autoblock) (Bloqueado automáticamente por el filtro antiabusos. Descripción del filtro que se ha disparado: Vandalismo corriente #1) (unblock | change block) BlockList: 190.110.152.19 (Talk): anon. only, account creation disabled API data: Array ( [query] => Array ( [blocks] => Array ( [0] => Array ( [id] => 1204 [user] => 190.110.152.19 [userid] => 0 [by] => Filtro antiabusos [byid] => 40896 [timestamp] => 2012-09-21T05:48:46Z [expiry] => 2012-09-22T05:48:46Z [reason] => Bloqueado automáticamente por el filtro antiabusos. Descripción del filtro que se ha disparado: Vandalismo corriente #1 [rangestart] => 190.110.152.19 [rangeend] => 190.110.152.19 [anononly] => [nocreate] => [allowusertalk] => ) ) ) ) So, still Special:Log/block shows an info, and Special:BlockList shows another info. Blocklist info is the accurate one but it'll help if *both* logs showed the same accurate info. Also "autoblock" in Special:Log/block is not needed. Thanks.
Possible solution: In Gerrit change #16650 $logParams[] = 'nocreate, angry-autoblock'; was changed to $logParams[] = 'nocreate, autoblock'; $logParams[] looks to be used in Special:Log/block. The 'autoblock' param should be removed from that, being $logParams[] = 'nocreate'; to avoid the weird "autoblock" message (not the option) being set in the message. Do we have a different messages in AbuseFilter.class.php for IP blocks and username blocks?
Okay, it looks like I misunderstood the log parameters. Gerrit change #24552
And speaking about blocks, bug 30024. Thanks.
Merged by Siebrand.
Still not working - Today: https://es.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Especial%3ARegistro&type=block&user=&page=User%3A85.91.89.62&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&uselang=en Real block settings: [user] => 85.91.89.62 [anononly] => [nocreate] => [allowusertalk] => So the block settings are applied correctly, but logging is still wrong in Special:Log/block. I'm not setting to REOPENED now since I don't know if your patch is now "live" or is still waiting. Please change it to reopened if that already happened since the bug is still present, then. Thank you.
(In reply to comment #13) > I'm not setting to REOPENED now since I don't know if your patch is now "live" > or is still waiting. Please change it to reopened if that already happened > since the bug is still present, then. The bug in AbuseFilter is fixed (I think). Whether it's deployed on WMF sites or not is a different matter.
It doesn't seem to be deployed, no.
