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Bug 31167 - Set Arabic text to tahoma, sans serif
Set Arabic text to tahoma, sans serif
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Internationalization (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Low major (vote)
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Assigned To: Amir E. Aharoni
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Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2011-09-26 15:04 UTC by Taha
Modified: 2013-02-08 12:26 UTC (History)
8 users (show)

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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


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Tahoma, Sans-serif enabled (112.40 KB, image/png)
2011-09-26 15:04 UTC, Taha
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Disabled (104.02 KB, image/png)
2011-09-26 15:07 UTC, Taha
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Description Taha 2011-09-26 15:04:03 UTC
Created attachment 9101 [details]
Tahoma, Sans-serif enabled

The text on the Arabic Wikipedia, look very small, and is very hard to read, it has been the case since forever.
But, if you change the CSS of the font-family to tahoma, sans serif.
Like this :
font-family: tahoma, sans-serif;

The text looks clearer, slightly bigger and easier to read,
Attached are examples of what I'm talking about,

Thanks in advance,
Comment 1 Taha 2011-09-26 15:07:19 UTC
Created attachment 9102 [details]
Disabled
Comment 2 Roan Kattouw 2011-09-26 16:36:23 UTC
A local sysop can change this on Arabic Wikipedia by editing MediaWiki:Common.css.

Or is this something that should be applied to all Arabic text in MediaWiki?
Comment 3 Taha 2011-09-26 17:06:43 UTC
Indeed, all of the Arabic text should be rendered in Tahoma, or if not possible with sans-serif, in case Tahoma isn't in the user's OS.
Comment 4 Amir E. Aharoni 2011-09-26 18:49:58 UTC
In the Arabic Wikipedia it is supposed to be sans-serif already. If i understand correctly, you are using Chrome or a similar browser; what OS are you using? I also see that the text is centered, and it is not supposed to be centered by default.

Does it look the same in other browsers? Does it look the same if you are browsing anonymously or with a different username?
Comment 5 Taha 2011-09-26 19:27:49 UTC
I'm using Chrome, and running Windows Vista. The best font for Arabic is Tahoma, which is not what the Arabic wikipedia is currently using. 

Writing font-family: Tahoma, Sans-serif; in a CSS file, will (as you probably know) use Tahoma and Sans-serif as an alternative if Tahoma for some reason couldn't be used.

The text is centered because that's the way it is, it has centering tags I guess, it looks centered even in the original screenshot (Disabled).

Also, many contributors to the Arabic Wikipedia, are writing in bold characters, sometimes making their text bigger than it should be, just so it can be visible. If we can apply Tahoma by default, it will give the users an appropriate look and feel experience. And then we could probably run a bot later to reset articles to normal instead of bold.

And yes, it looks the same whatever I do.
Comment 6 Amir E. Aharoni 2011-09-26 20:10:14 UTC
Oh, now i see that on Windows it is indeed serif. (Although not centered - but that's probably a different issue.)

We are going to have discussions about fonts this week. I'll keep this issue in mind and raise it there. The treatment of fonts in MediaWiki is probably going to change soon (WebFonts etc.). As Roan said, it is possible to change it locally in MediaWiki:Common.css in the meantime.
Comment 7 Taha 2011-09-26 20:59:22 UTC
The centering is due to tags that are present in the article, the contributors wanted it to be that way, it's not an issue.

Also, I have no contact with local sysops, their IRC channel is on invite only, but I'll try to contact them by some mean.

Thank you !
Comment 8 matanya 2012-08-25 23:31:50 UTC
any update, aharoni?
Comment 9 Andre Klapper 2012-11-02 12:19:34 UTC
(In reply to comment #6 by Amir E. Aharoni)
> We are going to have discussions about fonts this week. I'll keep this issue in
> mind and raise it there.

Amir: Any news?
Comment 10 Taha 2012-11-02 14:04:34 UTC
(In reply to comment #6)
> Oh, now i see that on Windows it is indeed serif. (Although not centered - but
> that's probably a different issue.)
> 
> We are going to have discussions about fonts this week. I'll keep this issue in
> mind and raise it there. The treatment of fonts in MediaWiki is probably going
> to change soon (WebFonts etc.). As Roan said, it is possible to change it
> locally in MediaWiki:Common.css in the meantime.

Any news about this ?
Comment 11 Andre Klapper 2012-11-26 12:23:29 UTC
Amir: Could you answer comment 9 and 10 please?
Comment 12 Amir E. Aharoni 2012-11-26 12:28:30 UTC
Oh, sorry, this fell off my radar somehow.

The Arabic Wikipedia now uses the Amiri webfont, and AFAIK people are happy about it. So does this still need fixing?
Comment 13 Andre Klapper 2013-02-08 10:23:00 UTC
Taha: Could you answer comment 12, please?
Comment 14 Taha 2013-02-08 12:26:01 UTC
Yes indeed. I think it's fixed.

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