Last modified: 2014-06-05 10:41:44 UTC
Hello. I wonder if it could be possible to remove the automatically generated edit summary that the extension puts when translating. It always states "Created page with:..." no matter if the page is effectivelly created or already existant. See, for example <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Terms_of_use/fi&action=history>; <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Terms_of_use/es&action=history>. I'd say that the tool should use no edit summary at all, unless you enter one in the summary field as it happens on the other edits. Best regards. - M. A.
On translatewiki.net we have disabled automatic edit summaries. I agree it doesn't make any sense, but I have no idea how I could disable it conditionally. I'm retargeting this for core. So, please provide way to suppress automatic edit summaries in PHP or when using the web API. No user interface is needed for me to use it in Translate.
Not sure I understand; is it saying "Created page" at times when it *should not say that*? Or do you just not like that it says "Created page" when you created a page?
(In reply to comment #2) > Not sure I understand; is it saying "Created page" at times when it *should not > say that*? Or do you just not like that it says "Created page" when you created > a page? Hello Brion. It's the first you said I think, as you can see here, for example: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Terms_of_use/es&action=history> each time I translate a paragraph with the new translate extension at meta it puts an automatic summary that says "Created page" when it's not true :) -- It may be OK when a page is trully created, but next edits maybe shouldn't use edit summary unless you enter one in the edit summary box, as it happens on the rest of edits. As you can see in the history of this bug <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_activity.cgi?id=32076> I opened this bug under MediaWiki extensions::Translate, but the assignee changed the component/product because aparently I reported the bug in the wrong section. Hope you can understand :) Best regards. - MA.
There is a part of the problem here that's relevant to Translate itself, which is the question what the automatic edit summary _should_ be for translations. Yes, it's very annoying to have the "Created with" summaries in pages like: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Highlights,_April_2012/sw&action=history But would having no edit summaries at all be better? Perhaps it would be advisable to use the edit summary to provide a limited excerpt of both the source and the translated text, like so: "Translated 'The Annual Report of the Wikimedia Foundation' to 'Der Jahresbericht der Wikimedia-Stiftung'" The source/target text could be abridged with "..." as needed. This would make it easy to scan recent-changes for obvious translation snafus.
This bug with its current summary is a WORKSFORME in MediaWiki, because $wgUseAutomaticEditSummaries in core does this and it's Wikimedia projects' choice to have it true. Perhaps you want the API to provide one such option on a per-edit basis?
