Last modified: 2012-07-22 19:17:19 UTC
The Confirmed group exists by default on mediawiki.org but the right is not assignable by anyone. The lack of the group makes it impossible for a trusted user from another site or a bot, even a flagged one, if recently created, to move pages or upload due to a lack of rights, no matter how experienced the operator. Alternatively, the underlying rights could be assigned to bots by default as going together with the flag. Suggest the promotion permission be given to admins.
FWIW, I really don't think we need the Confirmed group at all on mw.org. Is this an actual problem people are encountering?
Actually, yes, I encountered the problem when I had a special project that I needed my bot for. I brought my bot over and asked for it to be flagged, it was flagged but can't do the above because it isn't autoconfirmed yet. I personally can wait four days if I need to, or just do the job by hand - though I'd rather not ;), but the fact that a flagged bot isn't autoconfirmed and ''nobody can make it so'' (short of opping the bot) is problematic.
As noted above and on [[mediawiki:Project:Current_issues#User_rights_on_mw.org_9524]], though, a viable alternative is simply to give these rights to bots.
In which case, they should probably be given to all other assigned userrights, such as editors, reviewers, and coders. It is not inconceivable that one would need such rights as there are devs with almost no edits on mediawiki.org.
This is a right that only stewards can assign (not hard to get), nothing strange about it and I don't think mww has more need of it than the other wikis. Duplicating [auto]confirmed rights to all "higher" flags may make sense on all wikis, but wouldn't it clutter Special:listGroupRights a bit?
The set up of this right is a matter of 2 minutes and there is nothing what it would break, only benefits, even if not many of them. I support this idea. I don't really see any reason not to have it there. Actually due to fact that having the ability to promote users as confirmed, has only benefits I guess it would make sense to make it a default group for all wmf wikis, just like administrator is.
Agreed. It is assignable by admins on enwiki, by the way.
I see no point. for the rare cause this is needed you can easily find a steward.
Closing, this has been discussed at length and there's obviously no agreement about its need.
