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Bug 35261 - Add block permissions in rollback on Lusophone Wikipedia
Add block permissions in rollback on Lusophone Wikipedia
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
Site requests (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Normal enhancement with 4 votes (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
: shell
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Reported: 2012-03-16 12:19 UTC by Pedroca cerebral
Modified: 2014-11-17 10:36 UTC (History)
10 users (show)

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Description Pedroca cerebral 2012-03-16 12:19:13 UTC
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Vota%C3%A7%C3%B5es/Reversores_bloqueando_v%C3%A2ndalos

Please, add in rollback:


$wgGroupPermissions['rollback']['block']       = true;

This permission should be for three months, according to poll. Sorry for bad English.
Comment 1 Max Semenik 2012-03-16 14:33:46 UTC
What are your criterias for determining consensus, simple majority?
Comment 2 Pedroca cerebral 2012-03-16 14:43:35 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> What are your criterias for determining consensus, simple majority?

Max, this page (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Vota%C3%A7%C3%B5es/Reversores_bloqueando_v%C3%A2ndalos) shows a poll of the community. In polls of this type, usually is simple majority. Sorry for bad English.
Comment 3 Chico Venancio 2012-03-16 18:42:03 UTC
Yep Max, we are crazy like that in ptwiki. We had a vote and this decision won by a simple majority. So we should have a three month test with rollbackers having permission to block (Ips and non auto-confirmed users in obvious cases for at most 24 hours). Tough I do not agree, this is the decision of the community, as soon as you can change this setting the better.
Comment 4 Dereckson 2012-03-17 07:11:33 UTC
On fr.wikipedia, the % of support of a decision is whether set in policy (formally, like for ArbCom elections or as an indicative threshold, like for RfA), whether announced (and this is always the case for the polls and the "prises de décisions", the RfC for policies) before the advice collecting process. In this last case, we use a Condorcet or a threshold varying widely between 50 and 80% (usually "simple majority", "2/3", 75% or 80%).

As this is a test run, it seems reasonable to allow a decision at simple majority.

And a community consensus seems to exist on the validity of this voting process and method.
Comment 5 Snowolf 2012-03-17 08:36:31 UTC
It is rather worrying when a wiki drops down to 35 sysops per 3.5k active users and seeks to split the sysop rights in various chunks in a manner akin to hiwiki instead of electing new sysops.
Comment 6 Snowolf 2012-03-17 08:38:05 UTC
Sorry, 35 sysops per 5.4k active users is what I meant.
Comment 7 Dereckson 2012-03-17 09:21:53 UTC
pt.wikip knew a difficult period with the retroactive sysop rights withdrawal / Ruy Pugliesi affair, leading to a lost of 50+ sysops, a lost of CU, a lost of ArbCom.

The rollback right is a good complement to sysop right, and not always in the intent to split the sysops flags package.

Commons. and en. have active admins AND active rollbackers.

Furthermore, the pt.wikip situation implies sysop isn't a right wanted by experimented contributors(cf. this Darkoneko's post, http://darkoneko.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/ptwiki-est-a-poil-2/), so their rollbackers solution is legitimate.

And, of course, the pt. situation couldn't be compared to hi., as their community is more active.
Comment 8 Pedroca cerebral 2012-03-17 14:25:28 UTC
(In reply to comment #0)
> https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Vota%C3%A7%C3%B5es/Reversores_bloqueando_v%C3%A2ndalos
> 
> Please, add in rollback:
> 
> 
> $wgGroupPermissions['rollback']['block']       = true;
> 
> This permission should be for three months, according to poll. Sorry for bad
> English.

Sorry, the correct is:


> $wgGroupPermissions['rollbacker']['block']       = true;
Comment 9 Chico Venancio 2012-03-31 03:18:14 UTC
Any news? Is there a technical problem to implement this? Another kind of problem?
Comment 10 Kascyo 2012-04-07 15:57:05 UTC
Hello, the application has been open for more than 20 days, there is a problem? we need the tool in pt.wiki.
Comment 11 Mark A. Hershberger 2012-04-09 17:38:48 UTC
(In reply to comment #10)
> Hello, the application has been open for more than 20 days, there is a problem?
> we need the tool in pt.wiki.

adding Sam since he is the one who does this.
Comment 12 Sam Reed (reedy) 2012-04-12 16:18:45 UTC
Done

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