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Bug 36752 - key combination to make letter ಹ combined with other Consonants and for W = ಔ and Y = ಐ
key combination to make letter ಹ combined with other Consonants and for W = ಔ...
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: MediaWiki extensions
Classification: Unclassified
Narayam (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
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Assigned To: Srikanth Logic
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Reported: 2012-05-11 03:55 UTC by Teju2friends
Modified: 2012-06-12 14:37 UTC (History)
8 users (show)

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Comment 1 Srikanth Logic 2012-05-19 11:47:01 UTC
I tried adding ['~h', '', 'ಹ'], as a rule and did got ~h transliterated as ಹ. Are you sure d~ha gives ದ್ಹ ? Per rule added d~h gives ದ್ಹ and d~ha gives ದ್ಹಾ

Please tell which of these is correct. If you want d~ha = ದ್ಹ then probably one more rule needs to be modified.
Comment 2 Teju2friends 2012-05-19 13:45:46 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> Please tell which of these is correct. If you want d~ha = ದ್ಹ then probably one
> more rule needs to be modified.
Some more examples:
d~h = ದ್ಹ್
d~ha = ದ್ಹ
d~he = ದ್ಹೆ
d~ho = ದ್ಹೊ
Comment 3 Teju2friends 2012-05-19 13:52:48 UTC
Also, two of key combinations which were there before Narayam implementation are missing;

W = ಔ
Y = ಐ

Please refer "ಸ್ವರಾಕ್ಷರಗಳು (Vowels)" section of help file for transliteration
http://kn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:ಲಿಪ್ಯಂತರ
Comment 4 Teju2friends 2012-05-19 14:07:37 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> I tried adding ['~h', '', 'ಹ'], as a rule and did got ~h transliterated as ಹ.
Please try ಹ್ in place of ಹ( ['~h', '','ಹ್'], )
Comment 5 Amir E. Aharoni 2012-05-19 15:33:48 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> (In reply to comment #1)
> > I tried adding ['~h', '', 'ಹ'], as a rule and did got ~h transliterated as ಹ.
> Please try ಹ್ in place of ಹ( ['~h', '','ಹ್'], )

If I understand correctly, this is a ha with virama. I added it and it seems to work.

(In reply to comment #3)
> Also, two of key combinations which were there before Narayam implementation
> are missing;
> 
> W = ಔ
> Y = ಐ

Changing the bug title to reflect the additional request.
Comment 6 Amir E. Aharoni 2012-05-19 15:34:50 UTC
The patch is being reviewed here:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/8012/
Comment 7 Srikanth Logic 2012-06-02 10:06:46 UTC
Submitted https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/9740/ for the additional request
Comment 8 Srikanth Logic 2012-06-02 17:47:22 UTC
Can you please give some a sample string for unit test for W and Y along with the transliterated input?

ex:- Yeso for ಐಎಸೊ. Are there cases where these characters come in middle of a word and change the glyphs?

Also are these combination standard in kannada transliteration, as 'ai' gives ಐ and 'au' gives 'ಔ' already.
Comment 9 Teju2friends 2012-06-02 20:25:38 UTC
(In reply to comment #8)
> Can you please give some a sample string for unit test for W and Y along with
> the transliterated input?

nAkYdu = ನಾಕೈದು
ಗೌತಮ್ = gWtam
Comment 10 Teju2friends 2012-06-02 20:29:48 UTC
(In reply to comment #8)
Also,

W = ಔ
Y = ಐ
WShadhi = ಔಷಧಿ
Ydu = ಐದು
kY = ಕೈ
kW = ಕೌ
Comment 11 Amir E. Aharoni 2012-06-02 20:43:37 UTC
(In reply to comment #9)
> (In reply to comment #8)
> > Can you please give some a sample string for unit test for W and Y along with
> > the transliterated input?
> 
> nAkYdu = ನಾಕೈದು
> ಗೌತಮ್ = gWtam

Isn't it good enough to write "nAkaidu" and "gautam"? It produces the same results and it is implemented already.

Are these W and Y letters based on some other transliteration standard or just the old typing script in the Kannada Wikipedia?
Comment 12 Santhosh Thottingal 2012-06-12 04:32:43 UTC
Added nAkaidu , auShadhi and gautam also to the test cases. See . https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9740

Alternate key combinations are fine. But since they are not obvious( in phonetical way) to the users, it must be documented well. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Narayam/Kannada/Transliteration need some help - First of all it should be in English, and the kannada version should be translated from English version. And it should be updated to reflect this change.
Comment 13 Siebrand Mazeland 2012-06-12 05:09:22 UTC
Merged. Thanks for the contribution!
Comment 14 Teju2friends 2012-06-12 13:50:19 UTC
(In reply to comment #11)
> Isn't it good enough to write "nAkaidu" and "gautam"? It produces the same
> results and it is implemented already.
W and Y are added to achieve minimum key stroke. This was there before Narayam implementation.

> Are these W and Y letters based on some other transliteration standard 
No

> or just the old typing script in the Kannada Wikipedia?
Yes. Old script was fine tuned to balance between phonetical & minimum keys.

(In reply to comment #12)
> Added nAkaidu , auShadhi and gautam also to the test cases. See .
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9740
Please add these too,
W = ಔ
Y = ಐ
Ydu = ಐದು
kY = ಕೈ
kW = ಕೌ
WShadhi = ಔಷಧಿ
nAkYdu = ನಾಕೈದು
ಗೌತಮ್ = gWtam

> Alternate key combinations are fine. But since they are not obvious( in
> phonetical way) to the users, it must be documented well.
W (ಔ) and Y (ಐ) were already there in documentation. I will add about ~h.

(In reply to comment #13)
> Merged. Thanks for the contribution!
Thanks! ~h is working as expected. Please update W and Y too.
Comment 15 Srikanth Logic 2012-06-12 14:26:18 UTC
(In reply to comment #14)
> (In reply to comment #13)
> > Merged. Thanks for the contribution!
> Thanks! ~h is working as expected. Please update W and Y too.

~h is working because it was deployed weeks back in 1.20wmf4. The fix for W and Y just got merged and will be deployed in the next deployment window. Mostly next Tuesday
Comment 16 Teju2friends 2012-06-12 14:37:05 UTC
(In reply to comment #15)
> ~h is working because it was deployed weeks back in 1.20wmf4. The fix for W and
> Y just got merged and will be deployed in the next deployment window. Mostly
> next Tuesday

Thanks!

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