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Bug 40473 - Lohit Punjabi font problems
Lohit Punjabi font problems
Status: NEW
Product: MediaWiki extensions
Classification: Unclassified
UniversalLanguageSelector (Other open bugs)
unspecified
PC Windows 7
: Normal normal with 2 votes (vote)
: ---
Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
: i18n, testme, upstream
Depends on:
Blocks: 53015
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Reported: 2012-09-24 10:22 UTC by Zarienah Kaur
Modified: 2014-03-07 11:44 UTC (History)
11 users (show)

See Also:
Web browser: Other
Mobile Platform: ---
Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


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A screenshot of the article about the year 1999 in the Punjabi wikipedia, the overlaping digits are clearly visable and the crooked letters are also shown. (59.42 KB, image/png)
2012-09-24 10:22 UTC, Zarienah Kaur
Details

Description Zarienah Kaur 2012-09-24 10:22:37 UTC
Created attachment 11139 [details]
A screenshot of the article about the year 1999 in the Punjabi wikipedia, the overlaping digits are clearly visable and the crooked letters are also shown.

The Lohit Punjabi font is the default font on the Gurmukhi Punjabi Wikipedia and it had many problems and bugs that make it difficult for readers. The Gurmukhi digit 9 (੯) always seems to overlap with the letter/number next to it. The font also does not join the letters properly making it look crooked and untidy.
Comment 1 Santhosh Thottingal 2012-09-24 21:59:50 UTC
Could you please give Operating system, browser and their versions?
Comment 2 Zarienah Kaur 2012-09-24 23:18:18 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> Could you please give Operating system, browser and their versions?

I have accessed the wiki using many different operating systems and browsers, but the problem still persists, even all the editors report problems with the font.
Comment 3 Srikanth Logic 2012-09-25 03:54:30 UTC
I remember reading about a similar issue on village pump. This is a problem with font spacing similar to that of Lohit-Telugu.
Comment 4 Zarienah Kaur 2012-09-26 14:50:01 UTC
This is a major problem and a barrier to the readers of the Punjabi Wikipedia and needs to be solved ASAP.
Comment 5 Santhosh Thottingal 2012-09-26 22:28:52 UTC
(In reply to comment #3)
> I remember reading about a similar issue on village pump. This is a problem
> with font spacing similar to that of Lohit-Telugu.

Can you give more details with links/screenshots? I am not able to reproduce this. 1999 comes correctly for me.
Comment 6 Srikanth Logic 2012-09-27 12:16:03 UTC
http://crossbrowsertesting.com/users/34057/snapshot/z91e1ba96dadcae9ff6a/public

1999 comes as 19 till Windows. Also the horizontal line on the character gets
split in Lohit Punjabi. It is probably safe to say Lohit Punjabi is unusable in
Windows environments. I would suggest switching the default to Saab which
worked on few Windows combinations I tried.
Comment 7 Zarienah Kaur 2012-09-28 15:45:19 UTC
(In reply to comment #6)
> http://crossbrowsertesting.com/users/34057/snapshot/z91e1ba96dadcae9ff6a/public
> 
> 1999 comes as 19 till Windows. Also the horizontal line on the character gets
> split in Lohit Punjabi. It is probably safe to say Lohit Punjabi is unusable in
> Windows environments. I would suggest switching the default to Saab which
> worked on few Windows combinations I tried.

It would be be good if Lohit was fixed, but changing to Saab is a good idea, how can one change the default font of the wiki to Saab?
Comment 8 Srikanth Logic 2012-10-09 02:34:33 UTC
Can you please get a community consensus on the change of default font to Saab and update us here?
Comment 9 Zarienah Kaur 2012-10-28 08:47:10 UTC
Saab font has a problem with ਖ਼, so the consensus has failed.
Comment 10 Zarienah Kaur 2012-10-28 09:27:32 UTC
A new consensus has been started for the Raavi (Reset) font to be set as default. Reporting soon!
Comment 11 A S Alam 2012-10-29 08:20:59 UTC
(In reply to comment #9)
> Saab font has a problem with ਖ਼, so the consensus has failed.

Saab font is not following latest unicode standard 6.2, but only 4.1.
Comment 12 A S Alam 2012-10-29 08:22:19 UTC
Can we not disable webfonts (by default) for Windows as Gurmukhi is supported from Windows XP systems onwards and Raavi fonts are readable (at least) while compare to Lohit on Windows?
Comment 13 Andre Klapper 2012-10-29 08:39:22 UTC
(In reply to comment #10)
> A new consensus has been started for the Raavi (Reset) font

Could you please provide a link to that discussion?
Comment 14 A S Alam 2012-10-29 08:58:42 UTC
(In reply to comment #13)
> (In reply to comment #10)
> > A new consensus has been started for the Raavi (Reset) font
> 
> Could you please provide a link to that discussion?

http://pa.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:COM#Raavi_.28Reset.29_font
Comment 15 Zarienah Kaur 2012-10-30 20:02:32 UTC
The consensus has been reached, please act accordingly to fix the font.
Comment 16 Andre Klapper 2012-11-01 11:33:31 UTC
I wonder if this should really be under "Extensions/WebFonts" instead of "Wikimedia/Site Configuration". Not sure in case of webfonts.
Comment 17 itar buttar 2012-11-02 13:46:55 UTC
The consensus has been reached for this and also the only bug by me, bug:41350. Then, why there's a delay fixing the bugs?
Comment 18 Zarienah Kaur 2012-11-02 13:55:06 UTC
(In reply to comment #17)
> The consensus has been reached for this and also the only bug by me, bug:41350.
> Then, why there's a delay fixing the bugs?

There are people who oppose your bug, so there is a good reason to delay it, but nobody is against the fixing of this bug so I would suggest that it be fixed as soon as possible.
Comment 19 Santhosh Thottingal 2012-11-02 13:57:46 UTC
The language engineering team at WMF is currently working on some other high priority tasks. And we are in travel for next 2 weeks in India for programs. So be informed that, there will be a delay in working on this unless some volunteers take this up.
Comment 20 Zarienah Kaur 2012-11-02 14:03:03 UTC
I do not see how it will take a lot of your time to simply change the default front to Raavi until you sort out the bugs with lohit and saab. A consensus has been reached so please I request that you act accordingly. This case was opened in September and it is November already!
Comment 21 Srikanth Logic 2012-11-11 05:53:26 UTC
Apologies if our response was slow for you.

This bug was discussed with upstream maintainers and the problem has been identified and Lohit maintainers are working on the fix and we don't have an ETA as this bug is specific to Windows and Redhat maintains the font. 

Since we dont have any bug free Punjabi font and setting the option to Raavi (reset) will not be any purpose as most people will tend to close the page if they see squares. We suggest disabling the extension untill we get bug free fonts for Punjabi. Let us know what the community thinks. Thanks
Comment 22 Santhosh Thottingal 2013-03-12 09:13:53 UTC
Need a reevaluation since recently Firefox, chrome changed their rendering engines
Comment 23 Andre Klapper 2013-03-12 10:03:40 UTC
(In reply to comment #22)
> Need a reevaluation

-> adding "testme" keyword
Comment 24 Amir E. Aharoni 2013-06-13 21:46:38 UTC
Movint to ULS.
Comment 25 Siebrand Mazeland 2013-06-14 12:28:02 UTC
Lowering priority because this issue has been inactive for months now.

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