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Bug 41962 - Add namespaces on [[:bar:]]
Add namespaces on [[:bar:]]
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
Site requests (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Unprioritized enhancement (vote)
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Assigned To: Dereckson
: shell
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Reported: 2012-11-10 11:33 UTC by Al Bua
Modified: 2013-04-22 16:15 UTC (History)
5 users (show)

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Description Al Bua 2012-11-10 11:33:35 UTC
Dear friends!

Contributors on Bavarian Wikipedia ([[:bar:]]) have asked strongly for additional namespaces. (Cause we are a small wiki, we need this additional namespaces instead of own Wiktionary, Wikibooks, Wikisource, Wikiquote, Wikinews) 

See the community votes below (support = 10, oppose = 0):

http://bar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Aufruaf_zum_Dischkurs/Namensr%C3%A4ume

The additional needed namespaces are:

1. "Buach" (talk: "Buach_Dischkrian")
2. "Woat" (talk: "Woat_Dischkrian")
3. "Text" (talk: "Text_Dischkrian")
4. "Spruch" (talk: "Spruch_Dischkrian")
5. "Nochricht" (talk: "Nochricht_Dischkrian")

Best regards! [[:bar:user:bua333]]
Comment 1 Nemo 2012-11-10 11:37:16 UTC
Do you also want them to be content namespaces (see [[mw:Manual:$wgContentNamespaces]])?
Comment 2 Al Bua 2012-11-11 06:34:05 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> Do you also want them to be content namespaces (see
> [[mw:Manual:$wgContentNamespaces]])?

Yes, that would be fine!
Comment 3 Dereckson 2012-11-11 09:46:25 UTC
I wonder if this change shouldn't be approved by a wider community discussion on meta.

The Buach, Woat, Text & Spruch namespaces are fine, but there is also a namespace Nochricht for Wikinews content.

My main concern is Nochricht - a content core namespace for bar. - wouldn't respect by definition the Wikipedia principles, as news content doesn't respect NPOV, could constitute original research, etc.

The community question could be something like "Are Wikipedia projects allowed to have content namespaces with a different scope and set of principles and how best advertise this fact to readers and contributors?".
Comment 4 Dereckson 2012-11-11 10:08:42 UTC
On the other hand, I got the following two community advices on IRC:

(i) there are very few but other projects (and indeed als. uses this setup)

(ii) a few language community doesn't have the resources to maintain a set of small projects
Comment 5 Al Bua 2012-11-11 21:02:02 UTC
Right, we learned it from als.wp where it works fine (since 2008).
Comment 6 Dereckson 2012-11-11 21:43:30 UTC
[ Taking this bug. ]
Comment 7 Dereckson 2012-11-11 22:57:15 UTC
Talk namespaces should end by Dischkrian according your configuration request.

Currently, the portal talk namespace is "Portal Diskussion". Should we rename it to "Portal Dischkrian"?
Comment 8 Dereckson 2012-11-11 23:15:44 UTC
Gerrit change #33043
Comment 9 Al Bua 2012-11-12 06:35:19 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> Talk namespaces should end by Dischkrian according your configuration request.
> 
> Currently, the portal talk namespace is "Portal Diskussion". Should we rename
> it to "Portal Dischkrian"?

Yes, please.
Comment 10 Al Bua 2012-11-12 07:31:18 UTC
Currently, standard namespaces are in german and not in bavarian.

I've tried to change it here:

http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?language=bar&module=namespace&title=Special%3AAdvancedTranslate

But it had no effect.

Can you fix this too, or do I have do open a new bug.

Thanks in advance.
Comment 11 Dereckson 2012-11-12 11:14:41 UTC
(In reply to comment #9)
> (In reply to comment #7)
> > Talk namespaces should end by Dischkrian according your configuration request.
> > 
> > Currently, the portal talk namespace is "Portal Diskussion". Should we rename
> > it to "Portal Dischkrian"?
> 
> Yes, please.

Done, I updated Gerrit change #33043 to reflect that.

(In reply to comment #10)
> Currently, standard namespaces are in german and not in bavarian.
> 
> I've tried to change it here:
> 
> http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?language=bar&module=namespace&title=Special%3AAdvancedTranslate
> 
> But it had no effect.
> 
> Can you fix this too, or do I have do open a new bug.
> 
> Thanks in advance.

TranslateWiki is a tool to prepare the MediaWiki's language files, which have to be merged to the source code (this is an automatic process) and then deployed on our cluster (which is done more or less each week).

Translation workflow works like this:
# A new translation is offered on TranslateWiki (at this stage, the translations are not yet available)
# Languages files are automatically exported from TranslateWiki to Gerrit review system
# There are automatically merged into MediaWiki core (at this stage, the translations are available for new MediaWiki installations, using the last Git source code)
# The new MediaWiki version is deployed on the WMF clusters (then, the translations are deployed live on your wiki)

You don't need to open a new bug, your translation will automatically be available in ± 2 weeks, when MediaWiki 1.21wmf4 will be deployed.
Comment 12 Al Bua 2012-11-17 09:42:03 UTC
Thank you very much for all your help and support!
Comment 13 db [inactive,noenotif] 2012-11-18 12:58:37 UTC
(In reply to comment #8)
> Gerrit change #33043

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