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Bug 42467 - "Zarro Boogs found" is unhelpful
"Zarro Boogs found" is unhelpful
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
Bugzilla (Other open bugs)
wmf-deployment
All All
: High enhancement (vote)
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Assigned To: Andre Klapper
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Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2012-11-27 00:45 UTC by Isarra
Modified: 2013-07-25 07:07 UTC (History)
9 users (show)

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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


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Description Isarra 2012-11-27 00:45:30 UTC
Assuming this is even something we can configure, the 'Zarro Boogs found.' line when not finding any results is just plain unhelpful and should be changed. Not only is it not immediately readable for what it says due to the strange spelling of the words, the placement of colour makes the line very easy to overlook entirely.

Better, for instance, would be to simply say 'No bugs found.' and move it further down so it doesn't get as lost in the general navigation, and changing the styling so it is not using the same style and positioning as the option links would also help.

If it is at all possible, a short explanation of why there might be no results or what one can do from there might also be useful, instead of just three nondescript options that don't necessarily help the lost, but that's probably a little iffier.
Comment 1 Andre Klapper 2012-11-27 00:53:44 UTC
(In reply to comment #0)
> Assuming this is even something we can configure

We cannot configure it, but we can patch the code.
Comment 2 Isarra 2012-11-27 00:59:26 UTC
Or that.
Comment 3 Sam Reed (reedy) 2012-11-27 01:11:13 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> (In reply to comment #0)
> > Assuming this is even something we can configure
> 
> We cannot configure it, but we can patch the code.

Barf.
Comment 4 MZMcBride 2012-11-27 01:15:10 UTC
We could also try filing an upstream bug to have it changed. It's supposed to be cutesy, I think.
Comment 5 Dereckson 2012-11-27 01:15:58 UTC
If you're suggesting to patch it upstream, the Bugzilla community could be reticent to accept this kind of changes.

Especially, as the "Zarro Boogs founds" is small a Bugzilla meme.

This is documented at the following URL:
www.bugzilla.org/docs/4.4/en/html/glossary.html#gloss-zarro
Comment 6 MZMcBride 2012-11-27 01:18:37 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> If you're suggesting to patch it upstream, the Bugzilla community could be
> reticent to accept this kind of changes.
> 
> Especially, as the "Zarro Boogs founds" is small a Bugzilla meme.
> 
> This is documented at the following URL:
> http://www.bugzilla.org/docs/4.4/en/html/glossary.html#gloss-zarro

Yeah, I figured as much. Thanks for the URL.

Another option might be to use a UI localization feature/extension to override the text. I believe such code exists somewhere.
Comment 7 Andre Klapper 2012-11-27 01:32:31 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> We could also try filing an upstream bug

"See Also" field, I mumble "See Also" field in this report...
Comment 8 Isarra 2012-11-27 01:37:14 UTC
The see also field has a styling bug. Should I submit a bug for that too?
Comment 9 MZMcBride 2012-11-27 02:03:09 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> "See Also" field, I mumble "See Also" field in this report...

One day you'll learn that unless you put it in a comment, nobody sees your links. :-)  I have Bugzilla so zoomed in that I don't even see the second column of inputs at the top of the window. And even if I did, much like the URL field and whiteboard field, it's easy to overlook. Please (also) include links in a comment if you want others to see them.

(In reply to comment #8)
> The see also field has a styling bug. Should I submit a bug for that too?

Yes.
Comment 10 Andre Klapper 2012-11-29 01:37:57 UTC
The string is located in /template/en/default/global/variables.none.tmpl :
  "zeroSearchResults" => "Zarro Boogs found",
Comment 11 Andre Klapper 2013-01-03 15:57:47 UTC
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42094
Comment 12 Andre Klapper 2013-01-17 16:26:17 UTC
I got a -1 from Dereckson in Gerrit but I think it makes more sense to keep meta discussion in one place (here):

Insider jokes can be funny if your audience consists of enough insiders. In this case I doubt that the majority of the audience is insiders (techy people).
Plus there are more than enough people out there that don't "get" the "joke" which is a good indicator that something is wrong:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=657894,129176,254908,433631,370646,313647,706509,705073
Comment 13 Dereckson 2013-01-17 16:29:44 UTC
This is not an insider joke, this is an easter egg.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg_%28media%29
Comment 14 Matthew Flaschen 2013-02-22 06:42:02 UTC
I see where you are coming from.

However, like Dereckson, I consider it to be comic relief, and don't see a need to remove it.

It's pretty hard to misunderstand what it means, given that no bugs are listed.

The styling should be a separate bug.
Comment 15 Dereckson 2013-02-22 09:47:11 UTC
So far, we have the following opinions to keep the easter egg:

- Matthew Flaschen
- Dereckson

And these ones to remove it (cf. code review):

- Isarra
- Matma Rex
- Andre Klapper
- Waldir
- Ori Livneh

Add Reedy in the right category (comment is "Barf" about code patching).

The remove arguments sound sensible, people explained they're confused.

Next course of action consider there is a loose tendency to prefer the removal and so remove it, whether open a topic to ask more opinion on the mailing list.

I let to Andre, who is knowledgeable on the Bugzilla topic and have some responsibility for bugs management related tools, the weighing of which option is preferable.
Comment 16 Max Semenik 2013-02-22 09:57:49 UTC
I also see nothing bad in having that easter egg around. I remeber clearly that I had no problems with understanding it when I saw it for the first time, and it made me smile.
Comment 17 MZMcBride 2013-02-23 01:32:17 UTC
(In reply to comment #11)
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42094

Merged by Ori.
Comment 18 Andre Klapper 2013-04-25 11:40:03 UTC
Patch in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42094/ got merged into Gerrit, but not deployed yet.

Daniel: Could you deploy it?
Comment 19 Andre Klapper 2013-04-26 08:12:28 UTC
Thanks!
Comment 20 Siddhartha Ghai 2013-07-24 22:27:47 UTC
Add me to the "want it back" group
Comment 21 Andre Klapper 2013-07-25 06:20:31 UTC
Such comments are pretty useless.

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