Last modified: 2012-12-13 19:20:41 UTC
Unfortunately due to a human error, an e-mail message containing private data of an active Wikimedia user have been posted to the public Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list (instead of a private mailing list of the international organisers). Therefory I hereby request three e-mails to be edited in the archives, removing the non-public information: * https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/private/wikilovesmonuments/2012-December/005461.html * https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/private/wikilovesmonuments/2012-December/005462.html * https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/private/wikilovesmonuments/2012-December/005463.html Had that data been published on a wiki, it would've fallen under the terms of the general Wikimedia oversight policy, so I guess that there shouldn't be any problems with editing the three e-mails. For now, I have changed the archives of the mailing list into private, but am intending to make them public after the data in question is removed from there. Thanks in advance for your help, -- Tomasz (odder) WLM mailing list administrator
The content appears at the mails included in the reply.
There's also a fourth one. 005463.html, I guess.
s/005463.html/005464.html/
I have passed the request on to Ops for action.
Philippe: To who is this assigned? Is there an RT ticket or how was this passed?
It was passed to CT, who assigned it to Daniel, I believe.
Sounds rather impossible to easily find out about process then if there's no written and accessible communication... Well, I'll cross fingers.
a) request: please forward requests via RT, i did not see a ticket yet. i can create it by myself but just mailing RT directly and it would have been done already b) you guys do realize that deleting mails and recreating archives would break all deep links into archives because it changes the numbering of messages, right? So i will NOT delete entire mails, only insert XXXes or something... can do though..
c) Yeah, if everybody would reconsider their quoting style on lists there would be way less to edit :) see TOFU quoting ...
Re: b) -- I think inserting XXX's is what's wanted here. Removing the private information and/or replacing it with XXX's sounds fine.
a) Why is Bugzilla there for, then, if we have to forward tickets via RT? Plus, not everyone has access to RT (I don't think I do); b) Yes, we do know that, and we would appreciate if you do not delete any e-mails but just edit them (hence the title); c) Well, there is nothing anyone can do about it, sadly :-(
Hi, so what exactly is the private information in there? The street address in Spain? Feel free to mail me details at 4070@rt.wikimedia.org . Discussing the removal of private data on a public ticket may not be optimal (even though i see you switched archives to private)
Daniel, maybe if we had accounts in RT we could have done that. The archives were made private just after sending, so the numbering shouldn't change. Anyway, there's no need to remove the full emails. Perhaps it wasn't clear in Comment 1, the problem was that an email sent forwarded in "Text Over, Fullquote Under" (and then also included in other three replies...). The Fullquote can be happily stripped.
If you are an employee who signed an NDA you can have RT accounts. No problem at all. Please ask me to create them. And if you dont have a login to the web UI you can still just mail or forward ops-requests@ to create one. Yea, i am just going to replace the actual information with XXXes,, just tell me what exactly needs to go.. i guess it is the street address..
(In reply to comment #11) > a) Why is Bugzilla there for, then, if we have to forward tickets via RT? > Plus, not everyone has access to RT (I don't think I do); Please please discuss this in bug 30413 instead, not here. Thanks.
done and pasted there. now back to this ticket: still need info what to remove exactly please. I will just overwrite the complete name and address meanwhile.
I edited the .mbox file and replaced the address in several places with XXXXXX, then i recreted the archive html pages from the mbox file using "arch" a binary for that provided by mailman. 22:41 mutante: rebuilding archives of wikilovesmonuments list
Thank you for your work, Daniel; I reopened the archives again.
Thanks Tomasz, please can you confirm that the web archives otherwise look okay, i.e. no missing messages or broken links? I did a check myself yesterday and everything looked fine, but if you (as someone who is more active on the list) could also check that would be great.
Hi THO, actually I just checked the archives, and it looks like something got very broken. The first link (<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/private/wikilovesmonuments/2012-December/005461.html>) doesn't lead to the message it led to when I created this bug (it's <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/private/wikilovesmonuments/2012-December/005462.html>). I am also getting a 404 error for a link I am 100% sure worked in the past <https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2012-December/005450.html>; it looks to me that all the message numbers were moved forward by 1 -- this link, for example, now resides at <https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2012-December/005450.html>.
Sorry, the current link for the last message is <https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2012-December/005451.html>
Hmm, that's unfortunate especially as Daniel confirmed with me yesterday that he hadnt deleted any messages. Do you think you would be able to find the email where the previous link would work, i.e. where you don't have to +1 to the previous message number so we can find out which message is missing?
Hi all, yes, this is unfortunate. I really did not delete any mail or thread from the .mbox file to prevent exactly this. But i also need to use the tool provided by mailman to rebuild the archives and rely on it. To me it all looked good on the shell, no errors building or it or anything. There are 2 possible reasons i can think of, one would be that there was another request to remove something in the past or somebody had edited the .mbox file before but failed to recreate archive .html , or it is just a mailman bug, maybe one that just happens under specific circumstances. Sorry, but i tried and making any edit to the archive always seems to have risks of breaking existing deep links to specific messages. And about RT: let me rephrase the "employee and signed NDA"-part to just "signed NDA", since there are contractors and even volunteers with an NDA as i learned.
