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Bug 44758 - Asia/Jakarta timezone abbreviation is wrong
Asia/Jakarta timezone abbreviation is wrong
Status: REOPENED
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Internationalization (Other open bugs)
1.21.x
All All
: Normal minor with 3 votes (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
: i18n
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Reported: 2013-02-07 16:40 UTC by MF-Warburg
Modified: 2014-02-12 23:35 UTC (History)
11 users (show)

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Description MF-Warburg 2013-02-07 16:40:00 UTC
When setting a wiki's timezone to Asia/Jakarta (UTC+7), signatures get marked with (WIT), which however is the abbrevation for Asia/Jayapura or UTC+9, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Indonesia#Current_usage and http://time.kim.lipi.go.id/.
It should be changed to WIB.
Comment 1 Sam Reed (reedy) 2013-02-08 03:15:30 UTC
(In reply to comment #0)
> When setting a wiki's timezone to Asia/Jakarta (UTC+7), signatures get marked
> with (WIT), which however is the abbrevation for Asia/Jayapura or UTC+9,
> according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Indonesia#Current_usage and
> http://time.kim.lipi.go.id/.
> It should be changed to WIB.

Sounds more likely a problem with PHP...
Comment 2 MF-Warburg 2013-02-09 02:22:56 UTC
So should a bug in whatever-bugtracker-PHP-uses be created?
(sorry, I'm quite a noob in such things)
Comment 3 Mark Nelson 2013-02-09 22:34:15 UTC
This appears to be a language confusion and acronym clash more than a bug. The tz database, which nearly everyone (including PHP) uses currently uses English timezone names and acronyms. So in this case, WIT stands for Western Indonesian Time (UTC+7), not for Waktu Indonesia Timur (UTC+9). In the tz database, UTC+9 is rather Eastern Indonesian Time (EIT), and there is no timezone named WIB.

Here's a glibc discussion about it from 2005: http://www.sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=791
Comment 4 bennylin 2013-02-13 15:30:12 UTC
I've commented on the given link. And to the tz mailing-list
http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2013-February/018608.html
Comment 5 bennylin 2013-02-14 16:18:50 UTC
Can't the timezone simply be localized?
Comment 6 Mark Nelson 2013-02-14 16:30:23 UTC
The Unicode CLDR project appears to have localizations for timezones, among other things. And there's a MediaWiki extension for that: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CLDR

I don't have enough knowledge of how MW handles localization to comment, though; hopefully someone who knows more will weigh in on the current status/roadmap.
Comment 7 Umherirrender 2013-07-12 19:52:28 UTC
You can create the message 'timezone-wit' to used localized timezone, but works only for new signature.
Comment 8 bennylin 2013-09-21 05:35:29 UTC
(In reply to comment #3)
> This appears to be a language confusion and acronym clash more than a bug.
> The
> tz database, which nearly everyone (including PHP) uses currently uses
> English
> timezone names and acronyms. So in this case, WIT stands for Western
> Indonesian
> Time (UTC+7), not for Waktu Indonesia Timur (UTC+9). In the tz database,
> UTC+9
> is rather Eastern Indonesian Time (EIT), and there is no timezone named WIB.
> 
> Here's a glibc discussion about it from 2005:
> http://www.sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=791

Well, good news, everyone, the tz-code has been changed to clear the confusion between Indonesian and English abbreviation. Now it uses Indonesian abbreviation

http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz-announce/2013-September/000013.html

I've checked on min.wp by leaving a signature, and it's been changed accordingly (it used to be WIT -- English abbreviation, now WIB -- Indonesian abbreviation). 

I'll close this bug as fixed.
Comment 9 bennylin 2013-09-21 05:42:04 UTC
Oops... I forgot I've changed [[min:MediaWiki:Timezone-wit]] as suggested in #7. Without that, it's still WIT. So, what now?

Reopened the bug.

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