Last modified: 2013-07-25 07:08:19 UTC
Example from yesterday: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&dir=prev&offset=20130211005632&limit=2&type=pagetranslation [[m:Template:OurProjects]] was moved from [[m:Template:OurProjects2012]]; all the translations units are still under the old title and translation pages under new title are now 0 % translated. [[m:Template:OurProjects/nl]] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=Template%3AOurProjects2012&namespace=1198 https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&dir=prev&offset=20130210201318&limit=5&type=move&user=FuzzyBot The translatable page didn't have subpages to be moved along with it, and there were no (sub)pages under the new title so move didn't have any obstacle; job queue is around 1500/2000. If the move is just somewhere in the queue, this is only a bug about misleading completion messages. Note: this is not about display problems; I had a problem that *looked* the same with [[m:Post-edit feedback]] (translated pages shown as untranslated on <languages/>), which fixed itself in a few weeks, but it's a different one because translation units had been moved correctly.
Two days later, the pages have not been moved yet. The queue has increased to about 3500, but the general job queue health seems good enough so I doubt this got stuck in the queue for so long.
There was yet more job queue breakage recently; it's been fixed in the mean time. I suspect that's what caused this. Is there still a mess left behind?
(In reply to comment #2) > There was yet more job queue breakage recently; it's been fixed in the mean > time. I suspect that's what caused this. No, it wasn't related. > Is there still a mess left behind? Yes.
Not to be confused with bug 41138 comment 6: the final effect is more or less the same, but context seems different (as well as causes, probably), because in this case the pages are smaller and the move is at least logged. As page move seems mostly or completely broken and very risky, I suppose I should add a visible warning so that no more translatable pages are moved?
Another example of the problem is at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2013/Committee - the page was moved from https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2013/Committee Even though https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2013/Committee/es says (show/hide) 11:21, 17 March 2013 FuzzyBot (talk | contribs | block) moved page Board elections/2013/Committee/es to Wikimedia Foundation elections 2013/Committee/es without leaving a redirect (Part of translatable page "Board elections/2013/Committee".), and this is reflected on the page history, at <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2013/Committee/es&action=history>, the translations were not copied across. Siebrand: Please can you fix this ASAP?
I haven't been able to reproduce these locally. I need help debugging these on the WMF servers.
We have set up a test on test.wikipedia.org. There seems to be a bug indeed, as I observed that only the "Translation pages" are marked for rename, and no "Translation unit pages", even though I expected some 600 there in this test. Steps to reproduce: 1. Go to https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MovePage/Bug44865 2. New name: Tug44865 3. Ensure that "Move all subpages" is checked 4. Click "Check if the move is possible" Observed: I. New page is loaded. It lists: Ia: 23 "Translation pages" to be moved. Ib: 0 "Translation unit pages" to be moved. Expected: II. New page is loaded. It lists: IIa: 23 "Translation pages" to be moved. IIb: ~600 "Translation unit pages" to be moved. At this point in the scenario, it doesn't make sense to continue, as here is where things appear to fail already. This behavior can also be reproduced on translatewiki.net.
Gerrit change #56114
Merged. Still has to be deployed on Wikimedia wikis.
Testing on test.wikipedia.org at the moment.
All right on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikipedia_Editor_Survey_2012/Questions too (about 4800 translation units): completion stats at top of page and languages bar are still wrong but all pages are in place and Special:translate finds everything correctly, so it's only a matter of time.
