Wikimedia Bugzilla is closed!

Hi Raimond - in terms of closing this list, do you want to maintain archives or do you want them also deleted? Do you want the list itself deleted or just closed (marked as emergency moderation and prepend a [CLOSED] phrase to the listinfo)?

Archives can be maintained, but the list should be read-only. We, the moderators, frequently get spam mails which do not go on the list but nevertheless have to be deleted manually.
That's not really worth the effort, considering that the list is not used any more and it's main purpose (organizing an event in 2012) has been fulfilled.

So if simply closing (as opposed to deleting) it stops the spam going to the mods/owners, then that's the preferred method :)

Die Mailingliste Wikimedia-de-by-ltp wird betrieben von tobias.klenze at wikimedia.de, olaf.kosinsky at wikimedia.de, h.schlottmann at gmx.net

<-- please mail the existing list admins above about this

Do you still have the list admin password? If so some settings changes that should fix this:

https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/admin/wikimedia-de-by-ltp/?VARHELP=general/emergency - please set that to Yes.

https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/admin/wikimedia-de-by-ltp/?VARHELP=privacy/sender/generic_nonmember_action - please set that to Discard.

https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/admin/wikimedia-de-by-ltp/?VARHELP=privacy/sender/forward_auto_discards - set that to No.

https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/admin/wikimedia-de-by-ltp/?VARHELP=general/description - please prepend [CLOSED] to the beginning of this field.

If the emails are being directly sent to the -owner email address, then I'd recommend removing your email addresses from the https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/admin/wikimedia-de-by-ltp/?VARHELP=general/owner and https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/admin/wikimedia-de-by-ltp/?VARHELP=general/moderator fields.

Raimond: please could you confirm if the above steps worked?

I've done everything above (except for removing myself from the list of owners, which I think is not a sufficient replacement for closing the list).

Regards, Tobias

[Assigning this to THO; please close the bug if necessary or either remove current list admins/take another action.]

Assigning this to Giuseppe after a short discussion in #wikimedia-operations.

I deleted by error the list wikimedia-de-by, (almost same name, same admin) as I could not find wikimedia-de-by-ltp in the lists, so I got the name wrong, sorry.

I am trying to recover everything from backups, very sorry for the inconveninence

The recovery will likely take longer than expected, but I hope it will be available this evening.

If this is not acceptable for you, please let me know and I can kill some backup jobs  - given the low traffic of the mailing list I assumed it would be good enough to have it back by this evening.

Apologies again for any inconvenience I may have caused.

Don't worry, mistakes happen ;-)
I let people know that the mailing list is "undergoing maintenance" on our group's wikipedia page. -- Tobias

Sorry again, it seems our backup system had a super-long queue, and it's well behind in its processing queue. Unfortunately, restore jobs do not have an higher priority than backup jobs at the moment, one thing we will fix, so it will take longer for the backup to restore.

According to my projections, I am confident I can take the mailing list back online tomorrow at about 12:00 UTC, hopefully much earlier.

I'll update the ticket as soon as possible.

Hi, good news!

The list should be back, I won't close the ticket until I get confirmation from you that everything's back to normal.

Thanks a lot for your patience

Giuseppe

The list does indeed work for me.