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Bug 46417 - Create Wikivoyage Ukrainian
Create Wikivoyage Ukrainian
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
Site requests (Other open bugs)
wmf-deployment
All All
: Normal enhancement (vote)
: ---
Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
//meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_fo...
: platformeng, shell
Depends on:
Blocks: wikis-to-create
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Reported: 2013-03-21 13:45 UTC by MF-Warburg
Modified: 2013-03-28 18:13 UTC (History)
13 users (show)

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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


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Description MF-Warburg 2013-03-21 13:45:33 UTC
The language committee and WMF Board have approved the creation of Wikivoyage Ukrainian.

Language code: uk
Site URL: uk.wikivoyage.org
Project name: Вікімандри
Project namespace: Вікімандри
Project talk namespace: Обговорення Вікімандрів
Project logo: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikivoyage-logo-uk.png
Timezone: Europe/Kiev

User groups: uploaders (right: upload files, adding and removing to group by sysops), rollbackers (rights: rollback, adding and removing to group by sysops)
Restrict uploading to sysops and uploaders


Thank you.
Comment 1 MF-Warburg 2013-03-21 14:14:32 UTC
To add that the User Merge extension is not required, contrary to the other Wikivoyages, as this project started from scratch, with no pre-existing Wikitravel project.
Comment 2 Bohdan 2013-03-21 15:16:54 UTC
Seems that MF-W has forgiven about extra namespaces:

name                | canonical name  | namespace id
Портал              | Portal          | 100
Обговорення порталу | Portal_talk     | 101

Also, please, add namespace aliases:
name | target namespace id | comment
ВМ   | 4                   |
К    | 14                  | for links, NOT for categorization. Equal to :Category:
П    | 100                 |
Д    | 12                  |

per http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wy/uk/Wikivoyage:Кнайпа#.D0.90.D0.BB.D1.96.D0.B0.D1.81.D0.B8.2FAliases
Comment 3 Andre Klapper 2013-03-22 11:41:40 UTC
According to operations team, creating a new wikivoyage language version does not require ops (but probably Reedy / platformeng).
Changing keyword.
Comment 4 Bartosz Dziewoński 2013-03-24 15:13:27 UTC
The new wiki should probably also be using $wgCategoryCollation = 'uca-uk', per bug 45776.
Comment 5 Bohdan 2013-03-24 18:15:54 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> The new wiki should probably also be using $wgCategoryCollation = 'uca-uk',
> per
> bug 45776.

But afaik there was no discussion about it, also categorization is not as widely used in wy as in other projects, although it has some use
Comment 6 Sam Reed (reedy) 2013-03-24 22:26:20 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> (In reply to comment #4)
> > The new wiki should probably also be using $wgCategoryCollation = 'uca-uk',
> > per
> > bug 45776.
> 
> But afaik there was no discussion about it, also categorization is not as
> widely used in wy as in other projects, although it has some use

Because it's a relatively new setting, or at least, could only be used in it's current form as of very recently.

I'm not sure that there is any discussion to be had.
Comment 7 Bohdan 2013-03-25 15:46:53 UTC
(In reply to comment #6)
> (In reply to comment #5)
> > (In reply to comment #4)
> > > The new wiki should probably also be using $wgCategoryCollation = 'uca-uk',
> > > per
> > > bug 45776.
> > 
> > But afaik there was no discussion about it, also categorization is not as
> > widely used in wy as in other projects, although it has some use
> 
> Because it's a relatively new setting, or at least, could only be used in
> it's
> current form as of very recently.
> 
> I'm not sure that there is any discussion to be had.

I'm oppose this setting and I don't want it to be default because it has several negative points. If community decide that wants it - ok, but I dont know about such decision.
Comment 8 Andre Klapper 2013-03-25 15:51:06 UTC
Bohdan: Might be worth to discuss in https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wy/uk/Wikivoyage:Кнайпа instead? That's where the Ukrainian community is and where everybody affected could see and discuss your concerns. Thanks a lot!
Comment 9 Sam Reed (reedy) 2013-03-25 16:06:16 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> I'm oppose this setting and I don't want it to be default because it has
> several negative points. If community decide that wants it - ok, but I dont
> know about such decision.

Such as?
Comment 11 Sam Reed (reedy) 2013-03-27 23:29:11 UTC
Wiki is created but not fully configured as of yet.
Comment 12 Sam Reed (reedy) 2013-03-27 23:49:48 UTC
Should be fine now...
Comment 13 Bohdan 2013-03-28 11:59:55 UTC
Aliases configured wrongly. BM and K instead of ВМ and К (you used Latin instead of Cyrillic letters)
Comment 14 Sam Reed (reedy) 2013-03-28 17:42:09 UTC
(In reply to comment #13)
> Aliases configured wrongly. BM and K instead of ВМ and К (you used Latin
> instead of Cyrillic letters)

Even looking closely at the difference, I can't see any difference on the BM one.

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56415
Comment 15 Bohdan 2013-03-28 18:13:59 UTC
(In reply to comment #14)
> (In reply to comment #13)
> > Aliases configured wrongly. BM and K instead of ВМ and К (you used Latin
> > instead of Cyrillic letters)
> 
> Even looking closely at the difference, I can't see any difference on the BM
> one.
> 
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56415

Thanks, seems that all is ok now. They really are the same in most fonts but is is different chars of different alphabets, see also http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Venn_diagram_gr_la_ru.svg .

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