Last modified: 2014-07-18 12:10:43 UTC
Hi Task: Automatic category suggession from set of used categories on concerned wiki. (The way bugzilla suggests automated summary) Reason: 1) On wikis novice users are not aware what categories(category tree) are already available and how to do categorisation. 2) Evan such experienced users who work random subject content creation are not necessarily aware what is most appropriate category. 3) usually the patrollers are behind such users for getting the page properly categorised , content creator is usually behind content creation and finds frequent follow up patrollers defficult to understand. 4) I suppose this should be technically possible.
It's not clear to me how "automatic suggestion" would work - the only sentence you provide about your *expected* outcome is "The way bugzilla suggests automated summary". What would proposals be based on? Only checking for strings that were previously used, or do you also have other heuristics in mind? When would this be displayed, and where? Only when using CategoryTree?
Note people have done things like this before. See CommonSense on toolserver. I have no idea how that tool works or if it could be feasible to use the same method in mw. I agree with andre that how to display such information is very unclear. P.s. I don't think the original poster was referring to the CategoryTree extension when s/he said category tree.
Mahitgar: Please elaborate how this woould be gathered and displayed.
Thanks for being prompt from your side and sorry for delay from my side. *>>how this woould be gathered<< 1)Some part of info is already being gathered for "Special:Categories" ,'Special:UncategorizedPages' and other related pages.Analyse first copule of line of categorised pages and suggest categories to un categorised pages. 2)Second option is to gather information from (interwiki) Wikidata . Example: Say page 'abc' and its category page 'xyz' both are common for language 'o' and language 'p' wikipedia + may be more other languages; say page 'efg' also is connected on more than two wikis but category 'xyz' is mentioned on some wikis and not mentioned on some wiki's 3)Third option enhancement on HotCat gadget side, when, a category is being added collect first two or three sentences of the article for statisticle comparison,or give a key line option and request editors to provide keyline 4)fourth option, having few say 5 edit filters with upto 10 keywords each and allowing edit filter manager to add category from exmine page 5) Fifth option As and when Wikipedia goes for realtime editing analyse first couple of lines statistically.
Where to display options and How to insert 1)Vis a Vis above first option: If a page is new or uncategorised , A button can be shown before save pages to add category. :Horizontal category option display can be provided just above save button line ,and if clicked same as in edit tools it will get added to edit window 2)For option two same as First's option 3) For third option HotCat option display as some one clicks + button 4) For fourth option to display and add category from exmine page please also see bug no. 47497 also. 5)For fifth option either like first option or a pop-up after firt few sentences are typed on a new or uncategorised page.
I came across one edit filter Filter no1(http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/特別:不正利用フィルター/1) on Japanese Wikipedia it has tagged more than 80000 new uncategorised pages , the data what is already available in special pages.But here purpose of using edit filter may be to be behind page creators to add a category.This is how an avarage wikipedian looks towards imporatance of categorisation it seems.
Gather display and add few more options option 6)At advance search give an option to compare and suggest a category. If selected Compare the categories also when advance search is being carried out. Have a differentlly coloured column on right hand side of search results of uncatgorised pages Option 7)In special pages there is one tool called Special:ComparePages .The tool is currently under utilised if enhanced with feature button assking to show uncategorised pages one after another. and suggesting pages for comparison . Utilisation of this good tool will improve and also rest of the data also will get improved.
Is this bug also apropriate for mw extension VisualEditor ?
So we discuss a number of options here and it is not clear at all how to proceed. Wondering if an https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment would be better.
Yeah, this idea is interesting but pretty much out of scope for Bugzilla as long as it's entirely unclear how to code it.
