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Bug 48239 - Special:MovePage's namespace dropdown menu needs further thought
Special:MovePage's namespace dropdown menu needs further thought
Status: NEW
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Special pages (Other open bugs)
1.22.0
All All
: Low normal (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
: design
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Blocks:
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Reported: 2013-05-08 04:09 UTC by MZMcBride
Modified: 2014-09-18 16:11 UTC (History)
8 users (show)

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Description MZMcBride 2013-05-08 04:09:23 UTC
Special:MovePage now has a namespace dropdown menu, but on certain wikis (such as the English Wikipedia), I've observed this pattern of behavior:

1. User creates an article draft at "User:John Smith/Turtles and fish".
2. User goes to move the page at Special:MovePage.
3. User removes "John Smith" from the input field, fills in a reason, and then clicks move page.
4. Page ends up in the wrong location ("User:Turtles and fish").

Alternate scenario:
3. User removes "John Smith" from the input field, selects "Wikipedia" (because they want to publish their article on Wikipedia, after all, not realizing this is the site's meta-namespace), fills in a reason, and then clicks move page.
4. Page ends up in the wrong location ("Wikipedia:Turtles and fish").

I'm not sure how to best solve this. My inclination would be to add a confirmation screen (or use JavaScript) to say "THIS IS WHAT YOUR NEW PAGE TITLE WILL LOOK LIKE: 'User:Turtles and fish'. OKAY?" I'm not sure this would help if it read "THIS IS WHAT YOUR NEW PAGE TITLE WILL LOOK LIKE: 'Wikipedia:Turtles and fish'."

This needs further thought.
Comment 2 MZMcBride 2013-05-18 19:34:47 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> See http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-March/058551.html

Indeed. And this comment from Tim:

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I think the feature should be reverted.

In the <title>, <h1>, links, URLs and lots of other places in
MediaWiki, page titles are presented as a single string. This is about
the closest thing we have to a title concept in MediaWiki. We have
namespace filters in a few places, but the full title is always shown
in the results list.

This move page feature seems confused about how MediaWiki users think
about titles. It would make sense in a wiki engine like Confluence,
where page titles are normally abbreviated, but it doesn't make sense
in MediaWiki.
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Source: <http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-March/058587.html>.

I'm not sure I agree with an outright revert, though.
Comment 3 MZMcBride 2013-10-08 01:51:21 UTC
https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_comment/Simplify_thumbnail_cache&offset=20131008014647&limit=10&action=history

^ Another example of this happening.

The drop-down menu at Special:MovePage is problematic for all kinds of users.
Comment 4 Helder 2013-10-08 23:04:02 UTC
(In reply to comment #3)
> The drop-down menu at Special:MovePage is problematic for all kinds of users.

Indeed:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mosca/wikEd_international_pt.js
Comment 5 MZMcBride 2014-01-24 18:40:41 UTC
Bug 60399 may be a duplicate of this bug.

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