Last modified: 2013-06-02 10:46:03 UTC
Based on community discussion and vote (See provided URL), I would like to request granting bureaucrats on arwiki (Arabic Wikipedia) the ability to remove sysop flag locally. I believe this can be done by setting $wgRemoveGroups['bureaucrat'][] = 'sysop' The vote on this issue: 12 support and 1 oppose. Thank you.
There is an interesting quote at the bottom of the discussion which I think we should take into consideration: نتيجة التصويت 10 مع 1 ضد حتى الآن؛ سأنتظر أسبوعا آخر ثم سأقدم الطلب في بجزيللا. --Meno25 (نقاش • مساهمات) 19:39، 26 مايو 2013 (ت ع Seven days from May 26 is June 2, so let's wait until then to see if the proposal gathers more consensus. If nothing will change, I'll submit a patch in the UTC morning of June 2 (adding 'shellpolicy' until that time).
(In reply to comment #1) > There is an interesting quote at the bottom of the discussion which I think > we > should take into consideration: > > نتيجة التصويت 10 مع 1 ضد حتى الآن؛ سأنتظر أسبوعا آخر ثم سأقدم الطلب في > بجزيللا. > --Meno25 (نقاش • مساهمات) 19:39، 26 مايو 2013 (ت ع > > Seven days from May 26 is June 2, so let's wait until then to see if the > proposal gathers more consensus. If nothing will change, I'll submit a patch > in > the UTC morning of June 2 (adding 'shellpolicy' until that time). The discussion was open for ten days (started on May 20) and the last comment was three days ago (May 27), so, I didn't feel like waiting for a whole week which is an arbitrary date set by me. And we all know that Wikimedia developers usually take a long time to respond to bugs, so, I didn't expect that this bug will be resolved before June 2.
Now that I see you have a couple /thousand/ active users, and only 12 people supported this proposal, I'm not really sure this can be considered consensus. I'll wait /at very least/ until Sunday for more people to take part in that discussion. Please advertise the discussion among community members as widely as possible so that we can be sure there is enough consensus for implementing such an important change.
(In reply to comment #3) > Now that I see you have a couple /thousand/ active users, and only 12 people > supported this proposal, I'm not really sure this can be considered > consensus. I raised a concern that Arabic Wikipedia does not currently have a policy outlining the criteria according to which the community may demand revocation of sysop flag and proposed a draft which is to be discussed. I believe submitting this bug is premature, given that Wikipedia process should be based on discussion, not vote counts.
To be clear: the current policy at Arabic Wikipedia only lists removal of rights due to inactivity: //ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project:Removal_of_adminship Yes, it has a link to the adminship voting policy, but that page only talks about granting adminship, and has nothing specific about removing the flag.
With 29 admins, this seems unnecessary and I strongly suggest that the developers decline this request, as they have done so in the past. Granting bureaucrats the ability to remove sysops is an extraordinary step that should be allowed only in communities with hundreds of admins where the workload makes it justifiable and reasonable.
I would also add that from what I gather, the proposal got something like 12 supports, which seems hardly sufficient for such a major decision. I would suggest that at the very least it would need a consensus level in the range of what's required for electing new checkusers. This is just as a ballpark figure and to give an idea.
Nothing has changed since I first commented on this bug => closing as RESOLVED INVALID due to insufficient community consensus.
