Last modified: 2013-11-26 20:39:55 UTC
In the last few days I'm noticing some email notifications getting lost. In particular, I didn't receive any for these three edits <https://commons.wikimedia.org/?diff=98423184&oldid=97502053> and for <https://commons.wikimedia.org/?diff=98428697&oldid=98428551>, while I did for <https://commons.wikimedia.org/?diff=prev&oldid=98428551>. ---- Steps to reproduce, assuming all relevant wiki configs are set properly (e.g. on Commons right now): 1) Ensure Echo is not installed on the wiki 2) On [[Special:Preferences]], check that email is confirmed and "Email me when my user talk page is changed" (enotifusertalkpages) enabled 3) Visit your talk page [shouldn't be needed, but who knows] 4) Logout, login with an alternate account (but not one flagged as bot, see bug 38874) 5) Edit the page marking the edit as minor Observed: no email notification is sent. Expected: an email notification is sent. ---- "E-mail me also for minor edits of pages" is not a possible reason because 1) it never applied to talk page notifications, see [[mw:Manual:$wgEnotifMinorEdits]]; 2) it's not even available on Special:Preferences, although it used to and I've no idea when it disappeared. <https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Helder.wiki&diff=prev&oldid=712986>
There would be no talk page notification for minor edit if $wgEnotifMinorEdits is set to false
Thanks for the answer. (In reply to comment #1) > There would be no talk page notification for minor edit if > $wgEnotifMinorEdits > is set to false Why? That's not expected behaviour, docs say «This does not affect the user's own talk page (they will be notified about all changes, regardless of this setting)». <https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual:$wgEnotifMinorEdits&diff=64049&oldid=64047> When did this change?
The doc may be just referring to Orange Bar notice? "Set to true to allow e-mail notification to be sent also for small (minor) edits. This does not affect the user's own talk page (they will be notified about all changes, regardless of this setting)."
(In reply to comment #3) > The doc may be just referring to Orange Bar notice? > > "Set to true to allow e-mail notification to be sent also for small (minor) > edits. This does not affect the user's own talk page (they will be notified > about all changes, regardless of this setting)." I doubt it, HappyDog would not be so imprecise.
(In reply to comment #4) > (In reply to comment #3) > > The doc may be just referring to Orange Bar notice? > > > > "Set to true to allow e-mail notification to be sent also for small (minor) > > edits. This does not affect the user's own talk page (they will be notified > > about all changes, regardless of this setting)." > > I doubt it, HappyDog would not be so imprecise. I would hope not, anyway. :-) It was a long time ago now, so I don't fully remember, but at that time I was going through all the settings quite carefully, checking the actual code if necessary, therefore I would be surprised if that description was inaccurate. That said, it was a long time ago, and whilst I would expect it to be valid at the point of writing, the software may have changed since then, so probably worth re-checking the code.
Cc Platonides because he just mistakenly sent several thousands talkpage notifications as minor edits on Commons for WLM, making all those users miss an enotif.
The traditional behavior (and what I expected) was that the edits would have to be minor and bot for not triggering the uer talk email.
