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Bug 49998 - Enable VisualEditor by default for phase 2 Wikipedias (selected from the "top 10"-ish)
Enable VisualEditor by default for phase 2 Wikipedias (selected from the "top...
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
Site requests (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: High normal (vote)
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Assigned To: James Forrester
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Depends on:
Blocks: 50000
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Reported: 2013-06-22 00:16 UTC by James Forrester
Modified: 2013-07-29 19:12 UTC (History)
11 users (show)

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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


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Description James Forrester 2013-06-22 00:16:27 UTC
Currently scheduled for w/c 15 July. It's anticipated that this will not be possible for some wikis due to failings in VisualEditor and/or Parsoid; exact list to be determined closer to the time.
Comment 1 John Mark Vandenberg 2013-07-22 10:41:27 UTC
According to [[meta:Tech/News/2013/30]] the list is:
German  (de), 
Spanish (es), 
French  (fr), 
Hebrew  (he) - RTL, 
Italian (it), 
Dutch   (nl), 
Polish  (pl), 
Russian (ru) and 
Swedish (sv).
Comment 2 Gerrit Notification Bot 2013-07-24 01:56:48 UTC
Change 75543 had a related patch set uploaded by Jforrester:
VisualEditor into beta on de/es/fr/he/it/pl/ru/svwiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75543
Comment 3 Gerrit Notification Bot 2013-07-24 17:06:36 UTC
Change 75543 merged by jenkins-bot:
VisualEditor into beta on de/es/fr/he/it/pl/ru/svwiki for logged-in only

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75543
Comment 4 James Forrester 2013-07-24 17:09:43 UTC
This is now done.
Comment 5 Gerrit Notification Bot 2013-07-26 21:21:59 UTC
Change 76199 had a related patch set uploaded by Jforrester:
Enable anonymous use of VisualEditor on de/es/fr/he/it/pl/ru/sv

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76199
Comment 6 MZMcBride 2013-07-26 21:27:35 UTC
It's unclear whether the German Wikipedia wants this: <http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-July/070807.html>.
Comment 7 se4598 2013-07-26 22:57:18 UTC
the German wikipedia just started a quick poll over the weekend to at least postpone this activation for anonymous users on monday:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Umfragen/VisualEditor_Opt-in

the poll has currently also a option for the previous state where VE was Opt-in for users instead of Opt-out if this is still possible.

It would be appreciated to take the outcome on monday into account and postpone this activation for dewiki if desired.
Comment 8 Yellowcard 2013-07-28 20:57:41 UTC
In the quick poll (see #7) the results at the moment are as following:

1) enabeling VE as default for all users: 21 votes
2) VE as default for logged-in users: 6 votes
3) VE to be opt-in only until all bugs are fixed: 430 votes (!)
4) enabeling VE under another link name (suggestion was "Visual Editor (beta)" instead of "Bearbeiten" ("edit")): 31 votes

According to this large majority of users who oppose defaulting VE by tomorrow, I hereby ask you to put VE back to opt-in for logged-in users until the most important bugs are fixed. Thank you.
Comment 9 John Mark Vandenberg 2013-07-29 00:34:41 UTC
bug 52202 has been created based on the German Wikipedia poll.
Comment 10 Andre Klapper 2013-07-29 08:09:53 UTC
(In reply to comment #8)
> 3) VE to be opt-in only until all bugs are fixed: 430 votes (!)

Personal opinion: I am not aware of a single software that is proven to be completely bug-free. This is an impossible requirement that cannot be fulfiled.
Comment 11 p858snake 2013-07-29 08:13:17 UTC
(In reply to comment #10)
> (In reply to comment #8)
> > 3) VE to be opt-in only until all bugs are fixed: 430 votes (!)
> 
> Personal opinion: I am not aware of a single software that is proven to be
> completely bug-free. This is an impossible requirement that cannot be
> fulfiled.

They more than likely mean all the major bugs that cause issues with editing (eg: dirty diffs, randomly inserting pawns to name two)
Comment 12 Yellowcard 2013-07-29 09:19:39 UTC
(In reply to comment #11)
> They more than likely mean all the major bugs that cause issues with editing
> (eg: dirty diffs, randomly inserting pawns to name two)

Exactly, thank you for clarification.
Comment 13 Andre Klapper 2013-07-29 13:50:56 UTC
The patch was committed and merged (but the notification bot incorrectly reset the status), so I'm setting this back to FIXED again as the original request that this bug report is about (see subject line) has been fulfiled.
Note that this is not any kind of statement refering to bug 52202, it's just to reflect the current situation. For the German Wikipedia deployment, please refer to bug 52202 instead. Thanks!
Comment 14 MZMcBride 2013-07-29 16:26:50 UTC
(In reply to comment #13)
> The patch was committed and merged (but the notification bot incorrectly
> reset the status), so I'm setting this back to FIXED again as the original
> request that this bug report is about (see subject line) has been fulfilled.

I'm not sure the original request ("top 15" Wikipedias) has been fulfilled, but I'm also not sure that's still the goal. I'll leave this bug to James to sort out.
Comment 15 Gerrit Notification Bot 2013-07-29 16:36:44 UTC
Change 76199 merged by jenkins-bot:
Enable anonymous use of VisualEditor on es/fr/he/it/pl/ru/sv

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76199
Comment 16 James Forrester 2013-07-29 19:12:19 UTC
(In reply to comment #14)
> (In reply to comment #13)
> > The patch was committed and merged (but the notification bot incorrectly
> > reset the status), so I'm setting this back to FIXED again as the original
> > request that this bug report is about (see subject line) has been fulfilled.
> 
> I'm not sure the original request ("top 15" Wikipedias) has been fulfilled,
> but I'm also not sure that's still the goal. I'll leave this bug to James to
> sort out.

Re-titled for clarity. I feel that this is closed.

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