Last modified: 2014-11-17 11:09:19 UTC
en.wp user JmCor reports that in Firefox on Windows 7 the shortcut "<shift><alt>V (show the changes), which stopped working when the Visual Editor was introduced: currently, <shift><alt>V simply positions the cursor on the "Show the changes" button." I can confirm this also occurs in Firefox 23 on Linux.
Adding James to the CC as this might be an artefact of VE, even though it affects the source editor.
This is definitely related to VisualEditor - the shortcut works when VisualEditor is disabled (Safari on Mac 6, Firefox 23 on Linux) and in Konqueror on Linux which VE is not enabled for. Changing component to VisualEditor accordingly
(In reply to comment #2) > This is definitely related to VisualEditor - the shortcut works when > VisualEditor is disabled (Safari on Mac 6, Firefox 23 on Linux) and in > Konqueror on Linux which VE is not enabled for. > > Changing component to VisualEditor accordingly jmCor: still Windows 7, Firefox 22.0. The component change did not fix the bug on my machine.
This is because the same shortcut is used for multiple actions in the same page. For me in Firefox in namespaces with visual editor enabled pressing alt+shift+v once focuses on the "show changes" button, pressing again focus on "visual edit" tab" and further key pressing just changes the focus between the two. In other namespaces focus is always on "show changes" button, but the shortcut does not actually click the button. That is because the HTML still contains a hidden "visual edit" tab with the same shortcut.
Suggestions for a different shortcut for VisualEditor (or show changes) welcome.
*** Bug 52969 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Maybe Visual editor does not need an access key while the normal editor is used? Then one possible solution is to just remove 'v' as access key for visual editor when using the normal wiki editor. I think removing the access key there should not cause any problems for most users, for two reasons: 1. Since currently "show changes" in wiki editor has the same acces key, neither of the access keys work as they should. 2. In most use cases for Visual editor a user starts visual editting when they are seeing an actual page, not when they are looking at the page in the wiki editor.
Results of testing in Wikipedias about a week ago: ("Positions" means that focus changes to the "Show changes" button, but does not actually show the changes) Catalan : positions German : shows dif French : positions Greek : positions English : shows dif Spanish : shows dif Hungarian : positions Italian : warns about not saving Japanese : shows dif Portuguese : positions Russian : positions Simple English : positions Chinese : shows dif Sorry for being late to react and for not retesting recently. ~~~~
(In reply to Lejonel from comment #4) > In other namespaces focus is always on "show changes" > button, but the shortcut does not actually click the button. That is because > the HTML still contains a hidden "visual edit" tab with the same shortcut. This is changing (bug 64142)
