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Bug 53673 - Add webfont for Khmer language
Add webfont for Khmer language
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: MediaWiki extensions
Classification: Unclassified
UniversalLanguageSelector (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Normal enhancement with 1 vote (vote)
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Assigned To: Kartik Mistry
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Depends on:
Blocks: 53015
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Reported: 2013-09-02 06:55 UTC by វ័ណថារិទ្ធ
Modified: 2013-11-12 12:12 UTC (History)
8 users (show)

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Current Khmer font types - working properly on Windows but having rending issue on Mac & iOS (339.42 KB, image/png)
2013-09-02 06:55 UTC, វ័ណថារិទ្ធ
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Screenshot of km.m.wikipedia.org on an iPhone with embedded Hanuman webfont (54.17 KB, image/jpeg)
2013-09-02 08:36 UTC, វ័ណថារិទ្ធ
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Screenshot of google webfonts - only 5 font types are rendering correctly on iOS - in which Nokora is one of them. (60.81 KB, image/jpeg)
2013-09-02 08:39 UTC, វ័ណថារិទ្ធ
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Description វ័ណថារិទ្ធ 2013-09-02 06:55:31 UTC
Created attachment 13213 [details]
Current Khmer font types - working properly on Windows but having rending issue on Mac & iOS

Current font types are not rendering properly across all OS, esp. that of iOS.
We have tested among all the Khmer Webfonts from Google (http://www.google.com/fonts/ then change the script to KHMER)
Among all, only 5 types are working properly in all systems - Windows, Mac OS & iOS:
* Battambang
* Khmer
* Suwannaphum
* Hanuman
* Nokora

We have tested one font type, that we strongly recommend for its simple, sleek design and easy legibility, namely 'Hanumam' by temporarily embedding it in our Khmer Wiki Common.CSS and it was working perfectly fine.

So now, we would like to request for the delist of the old fonts and replace them with the 5 fully-working webfonts for your action. Let me know if you have any question. Thank you. 

Regards,

Vantharith
Comment 1 វ័ណថារិទ្ធ 2013-09-02 08:36:45 UTC
Created attachment 13214 [details]
Screenshot of km.m.wikipedia.org on an iPhone with embedded Hanuman webfont
Comment 2 វ័ណថារិទ្ធ 2013-09-02 08:39:38 UTC
Created attachment 13215 [details]
Screenshot of google webfonts - only 5 font types are rendering correctly on iOS - in which Nokora is one of them.
Comment 3 Andre Klapper 2013-09-02 09:57:17 UTC
Thanks for your analysis!

(In reply to comment #0)
> We have tested among all the Khmer Webfonts from Google
> We have tested one font type

Could you clarify who "we" is? I assume the Khmer community? Is there any kind of public discussion about the WebFonts situation that you could link to?
Comment 4 Kartik Mistry 2013-09-02 10:25:59 UTC
Thanks for reporting bug!

Question: If 'Hanuman' is working fine, why we need to add 5 fonts?
Comment 5 វ័ណថារិទ្ធ 2013-09-02 23:43:51 UTC
(In reply to comment #3)
> Thanks for your analysis!
> 
> (In reply to comment #0)
> > We have tested among all the Khmer Webfonts from Google
> > We have tested one font type
> 
> Could you clarify who "we" is? I assume the Khmer community? Is there any
> kind
> of public discussion about the WebFonts situation that you could link to?

Yes, you're right. 'We' here I referred to our Khmer community.
I am one of the admin in Khmer Wiki and during the recent Wikimania in Hong Kong, I met and discussed on Khmer font issues with Amir & Alotita from Wikimedia Language/Localization Team.
For the discussion, after I returned back from the Wikimania, I gathered few (active) community members to work and test with the fonts. However, we don't make any public discussion on the Wiki site due to very low traffic, but on our Facebook page (link here - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=525400094196207&set=a.124069224329298.21179.124062910996596&type=1&theater).
Thank you!
Comment 6 វ័ណថារិទ្ធ 2013-09-02 23:50:20 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> Thanks for reporting bug!
> 
> Question: If 'Hanuman' is working fine, why we need to add 5 fonts?

Yes, Hanuman font type is working fine; the same to other 4 font types I also mentioned before.
Currently, the universal language selector feature included a set of around 9 KhmerOS fonts. So I bellieve it's wise to give the readers choice on the webfont type they are comfortable with when reading. 
Thank you.
Comment 7 Runa Bhattacharjee 2013-10-03 14:06:14 UTC
Hi Vantharith, 

You have recommended that the following fonts be included in the repository:

* Battambang
* Khmer
* Suwannaphum
* Hanuman
* Nokora

Of these 'Battambang' is already in the repository[1]. The second font 'Khmer' is also probably in there with the name 'KhmerOS'.

To make sure that we clearly understand the requirements from the Khmer Community, I would like to confirm with you the following:

1. Are thees 5 fonts the only ones that the community wants to be made available?

2. Is 'Khmer' the same font that exists in the repository as 'KhmerOS'?

3. Should the remaining 7 fonts i.e. Bokor, Fasthand, Freehand, Muol, Muollight, Muolpali, Siemreap be removed?

Thanks.


[1] https://git.wikimedia.org/tree/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FUniversalLanguageSelector/5a808ef394eb5cc473e5c98ddee1bb4e170475d9/data%2Ffontrepo%2Ffonts
Comment 8 Gerrit Notification Bot 2013-10-05 23:26:16 UTC
Change 87698 had a related patch set uploaded by Amire80:
Adding Hanuman as a font for Khmer

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87698
Comment 9 វ័ណថារិទ្ធ 2013-10-06 02:50:01 UTC
Hi Runa,

Thanks for your message. Ok, below are my responses:
1. Yes, these 5 fonts are good and more than enough for readers to choose from.
2. For the font 'Khmer' here's the link - http://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Khmer
3. Yes, you can delete the old fonts - cos they don't render properly in both Windows and Mac OS.

Thank you very much.
Cheers,

Vantharith

(In reply to comment #7)
> Hi Vantharith, 
> 
> You have recommended that the following fonts be included in the repository:
> 
> * Battambang
> * Khmer
> * Suwannaphum
> * Hanuman
> * Nokora
> 
> Of these 'Battambang' is already in the repository[1]. The second font
> 'Khmer'
> is also probably in there with the name 'KhmerOS'.
> 
> To make sure that we clearly understand the requirements from the Khmer
> Community, I would like to confirm with you the following:
> 
> 1. Are thees 5 fonts the only ones that the community wants to be made
> available?
> 
> 2. Is 'Khmer' the same font that exists in the repository as 'KhmerOS'?
> 
> 3. Should the remaining 7 fonts i.e. Bokor, Fasthand, Freehand, Muol,
> Muollight, Muolpali, Siemreap be removed?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> [1]
> https://git.wikimedia.org/tree/
> mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FUniversalLanguageSelector/
> 5a808ef394eb5cc473e5c98ddee1bb4e170475d9/data%2Ffontrepo%2Ffonts
Comment 10 Runa Bhattacharjee 2013-10-09 15:44:19 UTC
Thanks Vantharith for the clarification. There is now already a patch to add Hanuman fonts. I will probably wait for Kartik (assigned for this bug) to comment on how he will be handling the removals.

Kartik,

The URL listed in the font.ini file for KhmerOS font (http://www.khmeros.info/drupal612/en/fonts) is throwing a 404 error. So I could not confirm if its the same font as the one Vantharith has linked. (http://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Khmer). What do you suggest? Thanks.
Comment 11 Kartik Mistry 2013-10-16 05:32:34 UTC
Khmer at Google fonts and KhmerOS looks different to me. Atleast, both have different licenses. Can anyone from community confirm this?
Comment 12 Gerrit Notification Bot 2013-10-29 04:00:35 UTC
Change 87698 merged by jenkins-bot:
Adding Hanuman, Nokora and Suwannaphum fonts for Khmer

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87698

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