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Bug 53902 - MobileFrontend links by default "Terms of use" to WMF's terms of use
MobileFrontend links by default "Terms of use" to WMF's terms of use
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: MobileFrontend
Classification: Unclassified
stable (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Low normal
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
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Reported: 2013-09-08 05:57 UTC by Quim Gil
Modified: 2014-02-12 23:53 UTC (History)
13 users (show)

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Description Quim Gil 2013-09-08 05:57:02 UTC
1. Go to the mobile version of a MediaWiki with MobileFrontend installed e.g.
http://espiral.org/b/index.php?title=Happiness_for_everyone&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile

2. Click on "Terms of use"

EXPECTED

The user lands in {{SITENAME}}:Terms_of_Service (or finds no link if such page hasn't been created).

ACTUALLY

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_use?useformat=mobile is hardcoded!
Comment 1 Arthur Richards 2013-09-08 06:00:21 UTC
Prioritization and scheduling of this bug is tracked on Mingle card https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/mobile/cards/1187
Comment 2 Ryan Kaldari 2013-09-25 00:49:01 UTC
This one is a bit tricky to fix, since MediaWiki doesn't actually have any concept of a "Terms of Use" link. It isn't a standard footer link like "Privacy policy", "Disclaimers", etc. Should non-Wikimedia wikis even have a "Terms of Use" footer link in the mobile view? There is no equivalent in the desktop view. Should we introduce such a footer link in the desktop view as well? How should the wiki owner configure this link? Through the installer? In LocalSettings.php? By specifying a MediaWiki message on-wiki? Also, we'll need to override the link for Wikimedia wikis, probably through the WikimediaMessages extension so that they point to the wikimediafoundation.org page instead of a local page.

We'll need to answer some of these questions before we can more forward on a solution.
Comment 3 Jon 2013-10-09 00:25:11 UTC
Are these questions getting answered?
Comment 4 Quim Gil 2013-10-10 20:14:47 UTC
Speaking for MediaWiki + MobileFrontend out of the box, without Wikimedia customization...

(In reply to comment #2)
> Should non-Wikimedia wikis even have a "Terms of
> Use" footer link in the mobile view? There is no equivalent in the desktop
> view.

MobileFrontend shouldn't add legal options not available in the desktop view.

Contact, Privacy, About and Disclaimers are already enforced in MobileFrontend. This already exceeds the needs for legalese of most MediaWikis.
Comment 5 Quim Gil 2013-10-16 17:24:16 UTC
Er... sorry, but why an enhancement request? This actually looks like a serious problem to me (as serious as Wikimedia legal texts are, that is).

Currently all the independent MediaWikis out there using MobileFrontend are claiming that their own "Terms of Use" are http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_use?useformat=mobile

There you find a Wikimedia logo, "Part of our mission is to:"...
Comment 6 Jon 2013-10-19 00:03:02 UTC
Kenan - thoughts?
Comment 7 Quim Gil 2013-10-24 16:49:04 UTC
Low priority + Enhancement... Right.  :)

Ok, my last argument on this report: MobileFrontend seems to be installed in about hundred non-WMF sites, all of them linking to WMF terms of use:

http://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend

Popular wikis (according to the number of pages and editors) include:

https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile

http://www.droidwiki.de/index.php?title=Hauptseite&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile

http://www.pokepedia.fr/index.php?title=Accueil&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile

And even 

http://m.yoursexwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page (warning: explicit content)
Comment 8 Jon 2013-10-24 17:17:03 UTC
I've poked Kenan several times. I will ask him again today to look into this.

The only reason I marked as an enhancement is after install it is easy to set redefine the message 'mobile-frontend-terms-use-text' to override it although since you pointed out a lot of people keep defaults and that doesn't have ideal results.

I guess this is not obvious but I'm not sure how we can do this in a nicer way at the moment. Obviously that changes alot if Kenan or Luis let me know we need to change it asap because of legal issue heres...
Comment 9 Jon 2013-10-26 00:39:05 UTC
Copying from Luis:"Medium priority? It's not an emergency, because it doesn't obligate us to anything, but it is still pretty misleading to mediawiki users, so we would like to get it fixed.

Not terribly specific, I know - let me know if you want to discuss further."
Comment 10 Jack Phoenix 2013-10-26 00:54:36 UTC
For what it's worth: third-party wikis often use the "disclaimers" stuff (MediaWiki:Disclaimers & MediaWiki:Disclaimerpage) to prove a "Terms of Use" link.

My $0.02: create a system message for MobileFrontend ToU link; check the existence and act accordingly (i.e. if it has some content other than "-", treat it as a link; otherwise don't show it in the footer at all).
Comment 11 kenan wang 2013-10-26 01:03:09 UTC
I'm going to look at getting this into the next iteration.
Comment 12 Gerrit Notification Bot 2013-10-31 22:03:43 UTC
Change 92994 had a related patch set uploaded by MaxSem:
Don't force WMF terms of use upon everyone

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92994
Comment 13 Quim Gil 2013-11-02 18:52:31 UTC
Note that the mobile edit preview page also includes a hardcoded link to the Terms of Use.
Comment 14 Gerrit Notification Bot 2013-11-05 02:19:54 UTC
Change 92994 merged by jenkins-bot:
Don't force WMF terms of use upon everyone

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92994
Comment 15 Arthur Richards 2013-11-06 00:13:04 UTC
Quim, there is a separate bug for that particular issue: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56639

Marking this as resolved now that patches are merged. Changes should start showing up with the deployment train.

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