Last modified: 2014-09-23 23:53:09 UTC
James Heilman is the author of the original report, pasted here from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Ranking_articles_by_Pageviews_for_Wikiprojects_and_Task_Forces_in_Languages_other_than_English https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Popular_pages Currently we have an amazing tool which every month determine what pages are most viewed for a Wikiproject and then provides a sum of the pageviews for all articles within that project. An example of the output for WikiProject Medicine in English. The problems is that this tool only exists in English and is running on toolserver rather than Wikimedia Labs. So while we know what people are looking at in English, and this helps editors determine what articles to work on, other languages do not have this ability. Additionally we are do not know if the topics people look up in English are the same as those they look up in other languages. In the subject area of medicine this could be the basis of a great academic paper and I would be happy to share authorship with those who help to build these tools. A couple of steps are needed to solve this problem: For each article within a Wikiproject in English, take the interlanguage links stored at wikidata, and tag the corresponding article in the target language Figure out how to get Mr. Z's tool to work in other languages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mr.Z-man#Popular_pages_-_please_can_you_make_an_exception.3F . He supposedly is working on it and I am not entire clear if he is willing to have help. Another tool that could potentially be adapted to generate the data is already on Labs http://tools.wmflabs.org/glamtools/treeviews/
Prioritization and scheduling of this bug is tracked on Mingle card https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/analytics/cards/1148
I don't know how broad the General/Unknown component of this product is, but this looks out of scope for the analytics team? This depends on bug 42259 (or rather is a duplicate).
I am also not quite sure if this falls within the scope of the Analytics team. I will ask Sumanah to have a look as well.
I didn't file it here because I thought it was a task for the Analytics team, but because it is a feature request related with the area of Wikimedia analytics data. If there is a better place I'm happy to learn about it. CCing Andre.
Well, http://tools.wmflabs.org/glamtools/treeviews/ mostly does this, but it's broken by the blocker bug. Requests for tools or bots are rarely managed in bugzilla but when they are they can be placed on Wikimedia > General I guess.
In case you refer to existing or yet-to-write tools on Tool Labs there is a "Tool Labs tools" product in Bugzilla.
I think this *could* be something the WMF Analytics team works on and is not obviously out of scope. But the Analytics Product Manager would be the one to decide that, in consultation with their team. If it's not in scope or not in the current TODO list for that team, then James should tell the public https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics list about the request and ask for a volunteer to help. That is my two cents. :)
Just to clarify: my only reason to file this bug is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mr.Z-man#Popular_pages_-_please_can_you_make_an_exception.3F I have no expertise to decide what technology or team should be used to fix it. :)
Er... the URL in my previous comments should have been https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Ranking_articles_by_Pageviews_for_Wikiprojects_and_Task_Forces_in_Languages_other_than_English Sorry for the bugnoise.
Looks like a great candidate for an IEG: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG I talked to James about this at Wikimania. I think it's a great idea and I'd be working on it myself if I had time. If this goes forward, I'll help any way I can. One consideration: How many non-English Wikipedias have active WikiProjects, and active Medicine WikiProjects? Probably fewer than you think. I know that pt.wiki has an INactive Medicine WikiProject, and that's one of our bigger Wikipedias. I think that question needs to be asked and answered in parallel with implementation questions: no use making the tool if no one's going to use it. That said, I'm not convinced that this is within the scope of ANY Wikimedia teams. This project involves significant data analysis and some intensive scripting (tho probably nothing that requires actual Mediawiki development resources). As well as cross-wiki community organizing. Now, WMF doesn't have any WikiProject support tools in the pipeline, or any concrete plans to help WikiProjects in the near future, or any concrete plans to specifically support collaboration on non-English Wikipedias. As much as I wish that were different...
We have 8 active medicine Wikiprojects. However this data would still be very useful for our translation project were we are translating medical content into about 50 languages. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Translation_task_force/RTT Will also be useful data to help convince governments to get on board with improving medical content. James Heilman
Is there an interest in proposing this project for Outreach Program for Women? If so, and if there at least one mentor for it. please move it to the "Featured projects" section. This way it will be automatically transcluded in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_for_Women/Round_7 Thank you!
That would be excellent. James
A technical mentor must step in, though.
Hi, this project is still listed at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Ranking_articles_by_Pageviews_for_Wikiprojects_and_Task_Forces_in_Languages_other_than_English Should this project be still listed in that page? If not, please remove it. If it still makes sense, then it could be moved to the "Featured projects" section if it has community support and mentors.
This project has still not been completed.
