Last modified: 2014-09-23 19:24:25 UTC
<sumanah> ok, Coren, do you think this complaint is also obsolete? <sumanah> "You get strange messages and can't find any information <sumanah> on them, e.g. this one: "Your user rights were changed by Andrew <sumanah> Bogott. You are now a member of this group: shell. Learn more". By <sumanah> clicking onto it, you get a list of permissions: "loginviashell". <sumanah> There is a red link pointing to "Wikitech:Shell". The user is <sumanah> confused." <Coren> sumanah: That's because gerrit kinda sucks; but IIRC there is a bug open to integrate the two. <Silke_WMDE> Coren, I sometimes read stuff about worse db performance in TL than on the toolserver. It's hard for me to tell if they are right complaining. How do you see this? <Coren> sumanah: That's still accurate but - honestly - I would expect that anyone who intents to login via shell would understand what the 'loginviashell' permission might be for. :-) <sumanah> I don't think so <sumanah> I think this is one of those "you think this is obvious" things <Coren> Silke_WMDE: All the cases I've seen to date are people who didn't understand the need for using indexes. :-) <Silke_WMDE> sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt - you were still on the other question <sumanah> part of what makes a polished system is fewer redlinks :-) <YuviPanda> plus write access to replicas is slower than tools-db (we should document that somewhere if we haven't) <sumanah> YuviPanda: ooh, maybe file a quick bug to add that doc? <DGarry> sumanah, Coren: I see the middle ground on this. I think Coren is mostly right, but that improving by removing redlinks and replacing with good documentation is important. However, where does that fit on a list of priorities? Quite low, I'd imagine. <Coren> sumanah: Feel free to suggest clearer text for newbies; It's a Wiki™ :-) But I'd be hard pressed to find something clearer than "You've been given shell access." :-) <sumanah> fair. <sumanah> I think making Wikitech:Shell *not* a redlink would be good
