Last modified: 2013-11-08 14:55:17 UTC
forking to new bug (In reply to bug 54647 comment #35) > Hi, > it just happened again. To be able to see the updated version in IE, I had to > use Firefox and do a hard reload. Only then IE showed the recent version. > It's > like before, with emptied caches and so on. (In reply to bug 54647 comment #36) > Here are two examples: > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massenmedien > and: > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massendrucksache > Edited as user (being logged in) with Opera. Afterwards viewed with other > browsers, namely Opera, IE and Firefox, and not logged in. > The problem is back. Only I don't know the reason. What do you think? > Greetings, > Volker
$ egrep -e '^< Last-Modified: ' bug54647-2013-11-04-3/*_Massenmedien.* | perl -lpe 's|^[^/]+/([a-z]+\..*?)\.\d+:|$1:|;' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr 5 ulsfo._wiki_Massenmedien:< Last-Modified: Sun, 03 Nov 2013 23:25:45 GMT 5 pmtpa._wiki_Massenmedien:< Last-Modified: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 10:30:13 GMT 5 esams._wiki_Massenmedien:< Last-Modified: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 10:30:13 GMT 5 eqiad._wiki_Massenmedien:< Last-Modified: Sun, 03 Nov 2013 23:25:45 GMT
Confirmed with a 2nd, arbitrary page pulled out of recent changes. [[de:Balduin Baas]]
I never heard the root cause of the bug this was forked from. The proximal cause was a failure for the HTCP UDP packets to be relayed from equiad to esams. Looking at the ganglia graphs makes me think a similar event is occurring: https://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?r=custom&cs=11%2F03%2F2013+22%3A00+&ce=11%2F04%2F2013+02%3A00+&m=vhtcpd_inpkts_recvd&s=descending&c=Text+caches+esams&h=&host_regex=&max_graphs=0&tab=m&vn=&sh=1&z=small&hc=4
HTCP delivery to esams relies on multicast routing from eqiad apaches to the udpmcast.py in pmtpa. This eqiad-pmtpa multicast service appears to be flapping.
Created attachment 13682 [details] Ganglia data: sporadic HTCP delivery to esams
This should be fixed now. I moved htcpmcast to eqiad to work around the pmtpa network issue.
Closing as per comment 6. Please reopen if this is still a problem.