Last modified: 2014-02-09 08:51:59 UTC
End goal is having full archives there (bug 57246), but that can be done later. 1) Take the list of all publicly archived mailing lists: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/ 2) List all those which are not yet in http://dir.gmane.org/search.php?match=gmane.org.wikimedia or http://dir.gmane.org/index.php?prefix=gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia and add the list here as comment (this can be helped by bug 58957 but can be done independently from that). 3) Subscribe each of them at http://gmane.org/subscribe.php , filling the fields in this way (don't touch the others): a) Mailing list email address: <name>@lists.wikimedia.org, e.g. advocacy_advisors/ 2013-Dec-03 03:27:08 - Directory -> advocacy_advisors@lists.wikimedia.org, b) Description: the description on [[m:Mailing lists/Overview]] if present, or whatever https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/<name> says, or nothing. c) Mailing list software: mailman d) [IMPORTANT!] Group name: follow existing patterns, so gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.<LanguageNameInEnglishAllLowercase> for Wikipedia mailing lists, or gmane.org.wikimedia.<MailingListName> (without any -l) for all the rest unless a more specific parent exists, in particular "india" for Indian groups, "usa" for USA groups and "mediawiki" for all MediaWiki-related lists [1] [2] [3] e) [Optional] Language: the list's language if not English; Localisation: yes f) Your email address: my email address, federicoleva@ (bugzilla tells you it); g) Comments: "We hope to be able to provide mbox archives too for completeness at a later stage but we'll appreciate the inclusion of the lists just for posts from now on too". I also propose this as GCI task, I'll review the job done based on the confirmation emails I receive. Very easy with above instructions, just a bit tedious (last time I added about a hundred lists it took a couple hours I think). [1] http://dir.gmane.org/index.php?prefix=gmane.org.wikimedia.india [2] http://dir.gmane.org/index.php?prefix=gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki [3] http://dir.gmane.org/index.php?prefix=gmane.org.wikimedia.usa
Priority High because the sooner we add them the less we need to worry about manual import of archives.
Task created.
Is it ok if I read off of https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Overview to find the ones that aren't subbed to gmane yet?
(In reply to comment #3) > Is it ok if I read off of > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Overview to find the ones that > aren't subbed to gmane yet? That's ok to start with and should get most of the work done, because you added all the links. But we don't know how many are missing from that Meta-Wiki page, so when you're done we should check that too. It needs not be tedious, if you just copy all the mailing lists names from http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/ , extract those on the page with some grep/regex magic* and compare the two lists e.g. with the "comm" command. (*) {{/ListRow|([^|]+)| , [[mail:([^\]|]+) and the like
Subscribed ALL the lists! (not really) I subscribed all the lists to gmane, except the ones that were abandoned (no posts in a really, REALLY long time, or the infopage said it was deprecated/unused)
(In reply to comment #5) > Subscribed ALL the lists! Great! > (not really) > I subscribed all the lists to gmane, except the ones that were abandoned (no > posts in a really, REALLY long time, or the infopage said it was > deprecated/unused) Indeed, I see 18 lists in the main pipermail directory with last message in 2009 or earlier. There are also some lists like mediawiki-core which are recent but seem to keep no archives, oh well. I'm copying here the list of lists not listed (:p) on Meta that you pasted earlier on IRC: advocacy_advisors best-practices bilderberg-l boardexec cateam comproj cvn daily-article-he daily-image-l denkmal-at destacado-l devnations-l educacao-br egyptopedia-l eu-policy-announce eventlogging-alerts exyu-tech fd-advisorygroup fkc-l flowfunding foundation-news-l fundcom fundraising-de glamtools greenspun-illustrations hiphop licom-l mediawiki-core mediawiki-cvs mediawiki-ng-l mk-edu movementroles newprojects openaccess performance photoreporters press-nl qa quarto-l research-network-l research-newsletter ruwikiconference ruwikiconference-l social-media spcom weeklong-l wikibetarask wikibg-l wikiel wikilovesearth wikilovespublicart wikimedia-asia-chapters wikimedia-au-announce wikimedia-california wikimedia-ci wikimedia-connecticut wikimedia-de-by wikimedia-fi wikimedia-ge wikimedia-gh wikimedia-il wikimedia-il-edu wikimedia-in-amd wikimedia-in-blr wikimedia-in-chn wikimedia-in-en wikimedia-in-hyd wikimedia-in-mlr wikimedia-in-mum wikimedia-in-newsletter wikimedia-in-pun wikimedia-kr wikimedia-ma wikimedia-medicine wikimedia-no wikimedia-ped wikimedia-pk wikimedia-sf wikimedia-sf-makerfaire wikimedia-sg wikimedia-th wikimedia-tr wikimedia-us-ga-atl wikimedia-us-nyc-discuss wikimedia-us-oh wikimedia-ve-entusiastas wikimediaby wikimediaco-l wikimediadk wikimediaeg-l wikimediahr wikimediake wikimediamy wikimedianz-l wikimediapa-l wikimediareference-l wikimediaus-l wikimedical-l wikimetrics wikimy-l wikinews-sr-l wikipedia-as wikipedia-bn-help wikipedia-cak wikipedia-ensino wikipedia-fr-wikimag wikipedia-gu wikipedia-or wikipedia-pa wikipedia-sah wikiskan-l wikistats wikitech-ambassadors wikiur-l wikivoyage-pl wiktionary-fr winedale-l wlm-africa wlm-announce wmf-care-bears xmldatadumps-admin-l Most of those (not the personal ones) will need to be added to the list on Meta at some point. You could already add them with links to Gmane because you should know the names they'll have when they get approved, but this should be enough for this task.
A few of the ones I said were not on meta were actually on meta, but with a display name instead of the actual mailing list name. Just in case someone goes back over this to fix the page.
Created attachment 14536 [details] Subscription confirmation results The 77 new Gmane subscriptions have been approved, confirmation messages with options, addresses etc. attached (thanks to ImportExportTools).
Just to note here that I denied the cateam subscribe request for the archive (private list, if it was listed somewhere as public let me know and will try to change it). On a quick review don't see any other private lists that snuck in but I imagine if I missed one the respective list admin will notice.
(In reply to comment #9) > Just to note here that I denied the cateam subscribe request for the archive > (private list, if it was listed somewhere as public let me know and will try > to > change it). On a quick review don't see any other private lists that snuck in > but I imagine if I missed one the respective list admin will notice. It appears there was a setting problem, I appreciate finding out. Not sure what happened there but it has been fixed.
The lists have been picked from the pool of publicly archived lists, so it's impossible for any private list to sneak in. :) I'm glad you found and corrected a configuration error, regular mailing lists audits prove useful once more!
