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Bug 60215 - Mails to any wikimedia.org account/list from any account @wikimedia.org.ve bounces
Mails to any wikimedia.org account/list from any account @wikimedia.org.ve bo...
Status: REOPENED
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
Mailing lists (Other open bugs)
wmf-deployment
All All
: Normal normal (vote)
: ---
Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
: ops
Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2014-01-19 00:15 UTC by Fhaidel
Modified: 2014-05-25 05:46 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

See Also:
Web browser: ---
Mobile Platform: ---
Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


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Description Fhaidel 2014-01-19 00:15:50 UTC
Every mail sent to/from any @lists.wikimedia.org.ve or @wikimedia.org from/to any account @wikimedia.org.ve bounces (including WMVE lists at lists.wikimedia.org) Mails to/from wikimedia.org.ve from/to any other domain work fine.
Comment 1 Andre Klapper 2014-01-20 14:47:27 UTC
Please provide the exact bounce reason / attach such a Bounce notification email (and remove any confidentiual data from it).
Comment 2 Fhaidel 2014-01-20 19:51:56 UTC
Mail Delivery Subsystem mailer-daemon@googlemail.com
15:18 (Hace 0 minutos)

para mí 
inglés
español   Traducir mensaje
Desactivar para: inglés
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

     wikimedia-ve@lists.wikimedia.org

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain lists.wikimedia.org by lists.wikimedia.org. [208.80.154.4].

The error that the other server returned was:
550-Verification failed for <fhaidel@wikimedia.org.ve>
550-Cannot route to remote domain wikimedia.org.ve
550 Sender verify failed

----- Original message -----

X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=1e100.net; s=20130820;
        h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to
         :content-type;
        bh=MiRSS8BuoIvWPtIIVEkywk5ztZpu0LkT4eJGkZMOjTQ=;
        b=m6fh0hwh6Z+vJI1noGDfWi/ENfOUAqo82qrqD8RtAyQQ5A6HlaU7G/h7jcgYziwcfV
         5DwlDQ46v+wIl8hfH9gNgZBkFOVv0m+tXvXTW3U3bcF2Hj/ean48RXaqiu8T4d7bHvkr
         5r/1gUmflmH58dnu9raWjKNFaWXJssUTMvHmmFPHDapNmqvTrVYNujQqJK5g/EguoLR5
         fTJ2qAan7E30mq+/jeMORfUfnHV1j09esT7bqtYQZNAOuO7vMJOC0Oji2l3cipUpxHNH
         zGhtc94YdoRlJ/UkFAhNgTvk8jvZf/NwXZTMm3lI1sn4O81SxGykOZicKmeeTB9OSMEQ
         RUWQ==
X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnyCpM6vYPeQld2kU7ynYV+D82HraSilIQ2T22ZujUIoacO9eZGSgKPWNDSBsUTmGiwagof
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Received: by 10.181.13.40 with SMTP id ev8mr10549233wid.16.1390247301981;
 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:48:21 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.217.161.201 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:48:21 -0800 (PST)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:18:21 -0430
Message-ID: <CAGFN0FNxGunhVU_akors8-BJ_s79N5PsrwpHnT=1+t8JyOd2jg@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: 1, 2, 3 probando...
From: Fhaidel Dominguez <fhaidel@wikimedia.org.ve>
To: Wikimedia Venezuela <wikimedia-ve@lists.wikimedia.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0438925995bada04f06c2cd4

Probando a ver si sigue rebotando el correo

Saludos,

*Fhaidel Domínguez*
Portavoz
Wikimedia Venezuela
www.wikimedia.org.ve


*ES: "Imagina un mundo* en el que cada ser humano tiene la posibilidad de
acceder a la suma de todo el conocimiento. Ese es nuestro compromiso"
*GUC: *"*Jülüjain wanee mmakat *ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee
Comment 3 Fhaidel 2014-01-20 19:52:22 UTC
-------- Mensaje original --------
Asunto:	Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
Fecha:	Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:58:32 +0000
De:	Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-daemon@googlemail.com>
Para:	maorx@wikimedia.org.ve

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

     grantsadmin@wikimedia.org

Technical details of permanent failure: 
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain wikimedia.org by mchenry.wikimedia.org. [208.80.152.186].

The error that the other server returned was:
550-Verification failed for <maorx@wikimedia.org.ve>
550-Cannot route to remote domain wikimedia.org.ve
550 Sender verify failed
Comment 4 Fhaidel 2014-01-23 16:05:05 UTC
Any news on this, guys? Thanks
Comment 5 Fhaidel 2014-01-25 15:38:51 UTC
wikimania-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org
4:30 (hace 6 horas)

para mí 
inglés
español   Traducir mensaje
Desactivar para: inglés
Your membership in the mailing list Wikimania-l has been disabled due
to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
18-Jan-2014.  You will not get any more messages from this list until
you re-enable your membership.  You will receive 2 more reminders like
this before your membership in the list is deleted.
Comment 6 Fhaidel 2014-01-30 14:55:49 UTC
All communications between the WMF under wikimedia.org domain with Wikimedia Venezuela addressed to wikimedia.org.ve is locked. It's critical. Every official and private communication between this chapter and the foundation staff and volunteers is locked due to this issue. Please, check it.

wikimedia.org.ve responses fine to and from any other domain.
Comment 7 Andre Klapper 2014-01-30 15:07:16 UTC
James Alexander: Any idea how to start debugging here? Or is this ops territory?
Comment 8 James Alexander 2014-01-30 18:13:16 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> James Alexander: Any idea how to start debugging here? Or is this ops
> territory?

Sadly I think this is completely ops territory, this sounds like it's outside of mailman. I believe Philippe had issues emailing wikimedia.org.ve from a staff email account too though I've pinged him to get more info on his test.
Comment 9 Andre Klapper 2014-01-30 22:52:54 UTC
Sent an email to ops@ and CC'ed fhaidel.
Comment 10 Fhaidel 2014-02-16 13:57:17 UTC
Hi guys,

As the problem could never be solved and this issue was very critical for our communications inside the movement, we decided to move our mail services to our shared hosting under our owm domain at wikimedia.org.ve 

Now, we are working fine again out the wikimedia.org domain. Please, delete the following lists:

* wikimedia-ve@lists.wikimedia.org
* wikimedia-ve-afiliados@lists.wikimedia.org
* wikimedia-ve-entusiastas@lists.wikimedia.org

Than you for all,

Regards,

Fhaidel.-
Comment 11 Fhaidel 2014-02-21 04:58:57 UTC
NEVER RESOLVED
Comment 12 Andre Klapper 2014-02-21 11:31:18 UTC
Yeha, not yet, sorry for that. As I wrote in comment 9 I CC'ed you but it looks like there was no answer. :(
No reason to WONTFIX yet, because that means being actively against fixing it. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Bug_report_life_cycle
Comment 13 Chris Johnson 2014-04-10 12:44:18 UTC
Fhaidel,

 I know this is late but I am working through the backlog and noticed this ticket.  I am not certain if the issue is a problem that can be resolved by us or another issue outside of our scope.   I noticed in a previous post you have moved away to your own mail servers.   Do you still want the mailing lists removed? or would you prefer to try and resolve the issue.  

Thanks
Chris Johnson
Comment 14 Chris Johnson 2014-04-15 19:52:58 UTC
Received an email from Fhaidel confirming that the list can removed.
Comment 15 jeremyb 2014-05-25 05:46:22 UTC
(In reply to Chris Johnson from comment #14)
> Received an email from Fhaidel confirming that the list can removed.

In any case it should be diagnosed. See comment 8 about Philippe also having issues when not involving sodium (lists) at all. (sounds like at least)

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