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Bug 63416 - Update list of most often used messages for MediaWiki core at Wikimedia
Update list of most often used messages for MediaWiki core at Wikimedia
Status: NEW
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
Language setup (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
: i18n
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Reported: 2014-04-02 13:46 UTC by Siebrand Mazeland
Modified: 2014-06-26 17:30 UTC (History)
10 users (show)

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Description Siebrand Mazeland 2014-04-02 13:46:32 UTC
The file wikimedia-mostused-2011.txt should be updated, so that the translation group core-0-mostused at translatewiki.net can be updated.
Comment 1 Niklas Laxström 2014-04-22 08:42:13 UTC
I'm moving this out of Translate component. Perhaps we could use EventLogging together with the new hook in message cache and suitable sampling to as a way to collect data this time.
Comment 2 Siebrand Mazeland 2014-04-22 09:01:48 UTC
(In reply to Niklas Laxström from comment #1)
> I'm moving this out of Translate component. Perhaps we could use
> EventLogging together with the new hook in message cache and suitable
> sampling to as a way to collect data this time.

For this high volume this sounds like complete overkill. For previous versions, this took about 30 minutes of Tim Starling's time to gather the data, IIRC.
Comment 3 Niklas Laxström 2014-04-22 09:21:16 UTC
Tim is difficult to reproduce on demand.

It's been three weeks since this bug was filed, and years since data was collected last time.
Comment 4 Siebrand Mazeland 2014-04-22 09:22:18 UTC
(In reply to Niklas Laxström from comment #3)
> Tim is difficult to reproduce on demand.
> 
> It's been three weeks since this bug was filed, and years since data was
> collected last time.

That's not because Tim is hard to get a hold of, it's because I'm bad at scheduling an update.
Comment 5 Nemo 2014-04-23 10:44:19 UTC
(In reply to Siebrand Mazeland from comment #4)
> That's not because Tim is hard to get a hold of, it's because I'm bad at
> scheduling an update.

Typically it happens at the hackathon, so we have hopes. :)

Copying here a comment I made some time ago on <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Language_proposal_policy>: «the WMF could give assistance in updating the "500 most used" core messages, and adding a second "1500 most used" (or whatever) core+extensions messages (measured in a way that ensures the most used messages on e.g. Wikisource only are all included too)». Whatever is measured in the end (even just core), it would be nice to ensure it represents all Wikimedia projects (maybe Tim's method already does but we don't know).
Comment 6 Nemo 2014-05-15 09:27:17 UTC
(In reply to Siebrand Mazeland from comment #2)
> For previous
> versions, this took about 30 minutes of Tim Starling's time to gather the
> data, IIRC.

I was wondering, was that a live hack or is there a commit on some wmf branch in SVN? The code may also be available to shell users on Tim's home directory on fenari or whatever; it takes a couple minutes to look it up.
Comment 7 Siebrand Mazeland 2014-05-15 09:29:14 UTC
(In reply to Nemo from comment #6)
> (In reply to Siebrand Mazeland from comment #2)
> > For previous
> > versions, this took about 30 minutes of Tim Starling's time to gather the
> > data, IIRC.
> 
> I was wondering, was that a live hack or is there a commit on some wmf
> branch in SVN? The code may also be available to shell users on Tim's home
> directory on fenari or whatever; it takes a couple minutes to look it up.

There's a patch set somewhere in Subversion, I think (or maybe in Gerrit already). I say that, because I think I remember he reverted that to stop profiling.
Comment 8 Nemo 2014-05-16 11:23:25 UTC
r88126, but nothing in https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Code/MediaWiki&path=%2Fbranches%2Fwmf&author=tstarling or anything else around the time.

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