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Bug 64547 - Upgrade some lists to Mailman 3
Upgrade some lists to Mailman 3
Status: NEW
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
Mailing lists (Other open bugs)
wmf-deployment
All All
: Low enhancement with 1 vote (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mai...
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Blocks: 64818
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Reported: 2014-04-28 14:13 UTC by Sumana Harihareswara
Modified: 2014-09-20 16:00 UTC (History)
15 users (show)

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Description Sumana Harihareswara 2014-04-28 14:13:31 UTC
TL;DR - try out the Mailman 3 beta on some smaller mailing lists?

https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-announce/2014-April/000191.html

Mailman 3 has a new archiver called HyperKitty, a replacement for Pipermail, so viewing the web archives of a mailing list is a way better experience - you can actually see threaded discussions all on one page. (I won't have to link to gossamer-threads anymore to give people a link to a whole discussion!) Here are some examples:

https://lists.stg.fedoraproject.org/archives/ - a directory of mailing lists

https://lists.stg.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/ - the listinfo-type page about a particular mailing list

https://lists.stg.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/CY2YL6HB5QGP73UHXIBRH7BW4RGJJ4IG/ - viewing a thread within a list

https://lists.stg.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/docs@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/VDQZW5BTALEJVWNUMVHDTWCC3ZCS6QGZ/?sort=date - possible to view a thread flat-style, by date, instead of nested by replies-to

https://lists.stg.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/docs@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/VDQZW5BTALEJVWNUMVHDTWCC3ZCS6QGZ/ - permalink to one message

Right now I'm a little unhappy that I see no obvious way to see the whole archive of threads for a month, the way there was with Mailman 2 - as you see in https://lists.stg.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/docs@lists.fedoraproject.org/2013/12/ it's paginated and I don't see a "see everything from this month" button or link. Maybe this is configurable by the administrator or maybe if you log in you can set it in your preferences; I haven't checked that.

I also like that people would be able to reply to messages via the web interface, and log in via OpenID.

More about what's exciting in http://terriko.dreamwidth.org/151005.html which says:

"Do remember that the suite is in beta, so there's still some bugs to fix and probably a few features to add, but we do know that people are running Mailman 3 live on some lists, so it's reasonably safe to use if you want to try it out on some smaller lists. In theory, it can co-exist with Mailman 2..."

So I'm wondering whether we could try this out on one of our smaller lists, like design or qa or wikitech-ambassadors?
Comment 1 Luis Villa (WMF Legal) 2014-04-30 16:39:19 UTC
Would be happy to see this deployed in test on advocacy-advisors.
Comment 2 Nemo 2014-04-30 21:25:04 UTC
+Jeremyb because he's been following mailman-Wikimedia affairs for 3.0 since 2012.
Comment 3 MZMcBride 2014-05-03 15:33:29 UTC
I'm not sure it makes sense to do this piecemeal. It might be less painful to do all the lists at the same time. This probably needs additional research.
Comment 4 Nemo 2014-05-03 15:39:03 UTC
(In reply to MZMcBride from comment #3)
> I'm not sure it makes sense to do this piecemeal. It might be less painful
> to do all the lists at the same time. This probably needs additional
> research.

Or, we could ask Manuel if he wants to be our kind pioneer and try it on https://intern.wikimedia.ch/lists/listinfo/ :)
Speaking of which, who knew that WMFR had switched to Sympa! https://lists.wikimedia.fr/lists So French.

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