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Bug 66472 - Add link [[Special:PageTranslationDeletePage]] to [[Special:SpecialPages]] when dual rights exist
Add link [[Special:PageTranslationDeletePage]] to [[Special:SpecialPages]] wh...
Status: RESOLVED INVALID
Product: MediaWiki extensions
Classification: Unclassified
Translate (Other open bugs)
unspecified
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
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Reported: 2014-06-11 11:54 UTC by billinghurst
Modified: 2014-06-11 13:16 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Description billinghurst 2014-06-11 11:54:55 UTC
When a person is both an administrator and a translation administrator, they are granted the right to delete a series of translated pages. The page to undertake that task is [[Special:PageTranslationDeletePage]] and it would ideally be listed on [[Special:SpecialPages]] for those with the dual rights.

I would suggest that it be listed in the ==Page tools== section which deals with deletions, and some aspects of page translation.  If a label other than the existing label is required, then option could be "Mass translation delete".
Comment 1 Nemo 2014-06-11 12:04:39 UTC
I don't see the purpose of listing this page: it would be inconsistent with the other special pages e.g. Special:MovePage; it only shows an error when accessed without parameters.
Comment 2 billinghurst 2014-06-11 12:26:55 UTC
Because 
* you can move a page without access to that special page
* it is not listed anywhere, so when someone has the rights, they should be able to access that page through SpecialPages
* having to remember that the page exists and the name and format of the page name is nonsensical
* it is the one page that makes multiple page deletions possible, such that equates to nuke, which is similarly for groups of pages.
Comment 3 billinghurst 2014-06-11 12:34:37 UTC
Or are you saying that it is not like nuke? And that is phantom special page and we have some other mystery operating here?  If that is the case ... UGH! No wonder it isn't documented cleanly, and so anyone can understand what is going on.
Comment 4 Nemo 2014-06-11 13:03:13 UTC
I'm sad that you're so frustrated by this page, but I have no idea why you are.

(In reply to billinghurst from comment #2)
> Because 
> * you can move a page without access to that special page

Really? How?

> * it is not listed anywhere, so when someone has the rights, they should be
> able to access that page through SpecialPages

Same is true of Special:MovePage.

> * having to remember that the page exists and the name and format of the
> page name is nonsensical

You don't have to remember it. There is a "delete" button, as documented in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate/Page_translation_administration .

> * it is the one page that makes multiple page deletions possible, such that
> equates to nuke, which is similarly for groups of pages.

(In reply to billinghurst from comment #3)
> Or are you saying that it is not like nuke?

It's certainly not like Nuke, because this special page is accessible from the standard action=delete and its tab, unlike Nuke.
Comment 5 billinghurst 2014-06-11 13:16:15 UTC
Layers layers layers, so many layers to apply before you get to see it, and to know that delete is different delete. What is confusing is when you get to the action page it lists it with a pre-filled editable field, which is different behaviour than expected.

We could do some more with the help pages to make things a little more evident. Diagrams would be useful, and splitting out the joint admin right components would enable self-evidence.

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