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Bug 68338 - Create new user group on Portuguese Wikipedia of good faith new users
Create new user group on Portuguese Wikipedia of good faith new users
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
Site requests (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Low enhancement (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C...
: community-consensus-needed
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Reported: 2014-07-21 20:10 UTC by Teles
Modified: 2014-09-06 19:24 UTC (History)
10 users (show)

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Description Teles 2014-07-21 20:10:52 UTC
It was proposed creation of a new group on Portuguese Wikipedia [1] to temporarily list new users that are somehow identified as good faith editors with low chance of making vandalism. 

This group has no permissions. It purpose is to add a tag set with edit filter that will inform patrollers that that edit was made by a new user and even if edit is incorrect it is unlikely that it is a vandalism so it is worth to guide the new user with patience instead of treating as a vandal. It was raised the possibility of this right be used in a research to evaluate reception of new users.

The right should be given and removed by sysops and bureaucrats.

It was suggested that the group name could be "Novatos de boa fé", Portuguese for "Good faith new users".
Singular male: Novato de boa fé
Singular female: Novata de boa fe´
Plural male: Novatos de boa fé
Plural female: Novatas de boa fé

Please, tell me if you have any question. Thanks!

--Teles

[1] - https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada/propostas/Cria%C3%A7%C3%A3o_do_grupo_de_%27novatos_de_boa_f%C3%A9%27_(30jun2014)
Comment 1 Andre Klapper 2014-07-22 09:18:22 UTC
[Moving to "Wikimedia" product as this request is about settings / configuration of the website, not about the codebase of MediaWiki itself.]
Comment 2 Andre Klapper 2014-07-22 09:20:04 UTC
Personally I wonder how adding this group solves any problems, instead of creating the same level of problems by discussing how to somehow identify a person as good faith editor.
Comment 3 Teles 2014-07-22 21:32:26 UTC
I wasn't clear when I said "somehow", but that can't be a problem as it is already discussed. 

The criteria is subjective most of the times. A new user that makes only wikitext errors, an user that is subscribed to Wikipedia Education Program [1], an user that communicates well or that shows willingness to learn editing are strong candidates to receive the flag.


[1] - https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Education_Program/pt
Comment 4 Bartosz Dziewoński 2014-07-22 21:35:49 UTC
Wouldn't it be simpler to identify such users by checking whether they are blocked? ;)
Comment 5 Dereckson 2014-07-22 22:10:27 UTC
Furthermore, please remember the proposal is on pt.wikipedia, a major wiki.

The proposal has received so far very few participation:
- 3 approvals by [[pt:User:Teles]], [[pt:User:João Carvalho]] and [[pt:User:Holdfz]]
- 1 reticence by [[pt:User:Helder.wiki]]
- 1 comment on a side issue by [[pt:User:Antero de Quintal]]

Your proposal is currently rather ignored by the community.

I wonder if it's really acceptable on pt. to enact a new policy with so few participation and approvals.

[ -shell +community-consensus-needed ; NEW → UNCO ]
Comment 6 Teles 2014-07-22 23:35:20 UTC
(In reply to Bartosz Dziewoński from comment #4)
> Wouldn't it be simpler to identify such users by checking whether they are
> blocked? ;)

I am sorry for I don't understand your point. This group is intended to involve a much more specific set of users than just those unblocked as described on proposal.
Comment 7 rschen7754.wiki 2014-07-25 08:33:53 UTC
In my opinion, a better solution would be resolving the issues with the overreacting patrollers. I agree with the concerns about having such low participation on a RFC on pt.wikipedia.
Comment 8 Teles 2014-09-06 19:24:43 UTC
Request withdrawn. Thanks for the comments.

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