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Bug 69557 - when no license and/or attribution is known disable reuse suggestion
when no license and/or attribution is known disable reuse suggestion
Status: NEW
Product: MediaWiki extensions
Classification: Unclassified
MultimediaViewer (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Unprioritized major (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
: code-update-regression, easy
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Reported: 2014-08-14 18:28 UTC by Jan Zerebecki
Modified: 2014-09-21 08:24 UTC (History)
9 users (show)

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Description Jan Zerebecki 2014-08-14 18:28:17 UTC
When the MediaViewer has no license information discourage reuse in the "Use this file" popin by explaining that it needs more research and referring to the files page for possibly more information. Otherwise it would encourage use of files without properly following their license.
Comment 1 Tisza Gergő 2014-08-14 20:26:11 UTC
CC Pau for design thoughts. Jan, do you have any specific phrasing in mind?
Comment 2 Jan Zerebecki 2014-08-14 23:33:06 UTC
Replacing the content of the reuse popin with "Please investigate the license and/or attribution before reusing this image. The file page (add link) might have more information." should do the trick. But I don't have any specific UI or phrasing requirements in mind, as long as it doesn't encourage reuse without checking first.

Missing attribution information should be handled similarly.

I don't think the severity is enhancement because this is a regression compared to the file page that does not encourage reuse without license or attribution.
Comment 3 Risker 2014-08-18 01:11:25 UTC
Just noting that there is no particular discouragement or difference in the level of encouragement of reuse on Commons for media from unknown/unidentified authors:  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Unidentified_authors , https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Whipped_Peter 

The images in these categories have all the same links and opportunities for downloading and/or usage as any other media. Suggest that before this change is made, there be a discussion at Commons on whether or not this enhancement/change is desired.
Comment 4 Lupo 2014-08-18 09:48:18 UTC
(In reply to Risker from comment #3)
> Just noting that there is no particular discouragement or difference in the
> level of encouragement of reuse on Commons for media from
> unknown/unidentified authors: 
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Unidentified_authors ,
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Whipped_Peter 
> 
> The images in these categories have all the same links and opportunities for
> downloading and/or usage as any other media. Suggest that before this change
> is made, there be a discussion at Commons on whether or not this
> enhancement/change is desired.

No red tape needed. It's not very complicated. Do not encourage re-use outside of WMF projects (do not provide embeddable HTML etc.) if:

* MediaViewer cannot find any license info, or
* MediaViewer finds a license that requires attribution, but cannot find an attribution/author
* MediaViewer detects that the license might be incorrect (that'd be bug 69389)

In the first two cases, the proposed re-use HTML will result in an invalid re-use. And in the third case, it'll encourage re-use of wrongly licensed images. (Typical case: copyvio uploaded as "own work" and cc-by-sa-3.0, then detected and put up for deletion.) Both are bad.

Note that the second bullet would nicely handle the "Unidentified authors" cases you mention, if those images are properly licensed. (They should actually all have a PD license tag, and PD licenses do not require attribution, so it'd be OK for MediaViewer to produce re-use HTML without author info.)
Comment 5 Jan Zerebecki 2014-08-18 09:55:37 UTC
This bug is only about MediaViewer suggesting reuse, it woun't change anything on the File pages on Commons (which per default do not encourage or suggest reuse).
Comment 6 Jan Zerebecki 2014-09-21 08:24:26 UTC
Reason for the severity is that the function lost here is "not encouraging copyright violations".

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