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Bug 70440 - VisualEditor: comment feature should be removed by default
VisualEditor: comment feature should be removed by default
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: VisualEditor
Classification: Unclassified
Editing Tools (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Unprioritized major
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Assigned To: Editing team bugs – take if you're interested!
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Reported: 2014-09-05 13:31 UTC by Eran Roz
Modified: 2014-09-08 20:52 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Description Eran Roz 2014-09-05 13:31:02 UTC
<!-- comments are not recommended for users: it is hidden!  -->

Comments aren't recommended for new editors (and for 99% of the times for advanced users too), as must comments should be written in talk page.

It is not just a non useful feature, it is a harmful feature, as people get confused between reference and comments and it leads to "too many icons" problem. Please remove comment button from toolbar completely, or at least change it to opt-in/out feature.  (Only the toolbar icon, as the option to show and edit already written comments is important)

Side benefit: less code to maintain and less bugs ;)
Comment 1 James Forrester 2014-09-08 17:49:09 UTC
(In reply to Eran Roz from comment #0)
> <!-- comments are not recommended for users: it is hidden!  -->
> 
> Comments aren't recommended for new editors (and for 99% of the times for
> advanced users too), as must comments should be written in talk page.

The principal use of HTML comments in articles is to warn new editors to not do something that seems "obvious" but there is talk-page consensus to not do. This was a very widely-requested pain point from experienced editors who felt now showing the comments was very damaging to new users' expereience. Hiding comments which are there for new users seems like the wrong way around…

Long term, this will hopefully be replaced by a proper in-editor discussion system, but until that's done, this will have to do.
Comment 2 Eran Roz 2014-09-08 20:52:04 UTC
James, comments are great to VIEW & EDIT, but there is no reason to ADD comments in VE. Please consider removing the button, as new editors don't understand what is "comment" (they use it instead of citation).

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